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Why the #DiedSuddenly movement must die
New York Post ^ | 4.15.23 | Bethany Mandel

Posted on 04/17/2023 2:47:22 AM PDT by DallasBiff

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To: DallasBiff
Back in 2020, when the media and government had everybody frightened, all masked up and huddled in their homes, it seemed that every death was counted a COVID death. They would have those tickers running along the bottom of the screen showing the death count.

Now that the same media and government have been pushing these vaxxes for the past two years, these ghouls now have a problem with the rest of us questioning all the sudden deaths among young people who have taken these shots.

Screw them.

41 posted on 04/17/2023 4:57:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (5,016,040 Truth | 87,429,920 Twitter)
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To: mewzilla

“Woke” simply means “anti-white”.

It does not require a long discussion.


42 posted on 04/17/2023 4:58:02 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: firebrand

Math is not your best subject, eh? Go ahead and toss out
critical thinking while you’re at it.


43 posted on 04/17/2023 4:58:23 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( Why I Oughta! Tired of leftards... Bang, Zoom, To The Moon!)
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To: firebrand
They could have been from anything, including covid itself.

Sure, and Pfizer was determined to hide their data for 75 years for no reason at all.

44 posted on 04/17/2023 5:03:00 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: FamiliarFace; Fury; sten; FLT-bird; SaveFerris; mewzilla; norwaypinesavage; Chickensoup; Treb; ...
Even Prasad and Madrola admit that we don’t know if the vaccines are truly causing an uptick in heart conditions. “To establish this would require painstaking statistical work"

I'm just a dopey guy on a crank right-wing bulletin board. Challenge accepted. Here is a data-driven response:

A study Sudden Deaths in Young Competitive Athletes-Analysis of 1866 Deaths in the United States, 1980–2006 shows an average of sixty-six (66) deaths per year.

A separate global study, Sudden cardiac death in athletes: the Lausanne Recommendations lists 1101 (1966-2004) reported cases in athletes under 35 years, or an average of 29 per year.

This data set of citizen reports shows 718 (and counting) of such deaths in 2022.

Now, these data are apples and oranges. The peer data averages may be downed-biased because the researchers didn't have Internet search capabilities back then. Also the first study is US only and the Lausanne study is global. Finally, the citizen dataset is not totally homogenous with that of the peer data, most notably on an age basis.

Thus, let's fix what we can - the age difference.

Let's take the citizen dataset, and focus on people 13-25 (the age range with the first study). Dec 2022-28 deaths, Nov 2022-39, Oct 2022-19, Sept 2022-17 , Aug 2022-about 30, July 2022-15, June 2022-22, May 2022-19, April 2022-22, March 2022-44 (that was a tough month), February 2022-17, January 2022-31.

Grand total for 2022 is 303.

That's waaaaaay more than the benchmarks.

Notwithstanding the pros and cons to the data sets, this result should be, for people of good faith, worthy of a "hmmmmm...." and further investigation. Something is up.

Now, let's be honest: these citizen datasets suffer from a lack of consistency in data capture, recording, and processing that the benchmark data possess (though they, as noted, the benchmarks likely suffer from a reporting limitation). It's the same reason why clinical trials are so important in assessing whether or not a shot should graduate to a vaccine - and it's worth repeating that these shots did NOT undergo legit clinical trials. Thus, nobody should do a victory lap with 303. Indeed, we are taking about young people dying - nobody should be happy.

I am also not going to claim that all of this data are prima facie evidence that the shots are causing these sudden deaths. In fact, I am hoping that the claim that zillions of shot-recipients will be dead in five years turns out to be as wrong as it is sensational.

However, considering the virtual absence of legitimate data capture with consistent recording, data scrubbing, and verification, we drink the dirty water at the oasis in this desert.

The data are compelling - SOMETHING bad is happening to youths.

Let's keep in mind, these shots were granted EUA and weren't subject to proper clinical trials, to assess long-term risks. This is especially worrying because vaccines fail trials 59% of the time and take a median of 9 years.

Thus, we should have little tolerance for bad side effects, AND the utter absence of rigorous research on sudden deaths. If I can put something together on FR, someone with access to Lexis-Nexis can do a bang up job.

Silence = consent, they told us in the 80s. Alinsky works for me now.

45 posted on 04/17/2023 5:03:23 AM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Chickensoup

What I see are only highly elevated death rate since Covid, along with fact checkers using much higher rates than 25% linked to the vax, which (true to form) seems intended to silence any claims of elevated death rate linked to the vax. Yet hard data seems to be missing, while correlation = causation can be hard to prove.


46 posted on 04/17/2023 5:06:14 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: DallasBiff

The Forgotten Side of Medicine by A Midwest Doctor - very thoughtful and level headed guy.

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/why-is-the-vaccine-killing-our-young

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/archive?sort=new

Just click No Thanks or Continue Reading to avoid signup


47 posted on 04/17/2023 5:19:18 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: Pollard

Thank you for this link. So very good.


48 posted on 04/17/2023 5:34:14 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: FamiliarFace

He’s like the US version of John Campbell, except he’s a doctor, not a nurse. Thoughtful, not theatrical.


49 posted on 04/17/2023 5:54:37 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: FamiliarFace

Indeed. 2020 finally exposed our ruling class as the depraved, power-mad demons they are.

It also exposed quite a few of our “fellow citizens” as the good little Soviets they are; many of our neighbors, friends, and sadly, family, would happily herd us into the gulag if told to do so.

Do you doubt that if Fauxi would have gone on national television and exhorted the masses to exterminate the unvaccinated, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands would have complied?


50 posted on 04/17/2023 5:56:59 AM PDT by RonaldusMagnus-DonaldusMagnus
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To: RonaldusMagnus-DonaldusMagnus

I have no doubt this would have happened had Fauci done this.

I used to wonder as a kid how things could’ve happened in Nazi Germany. How could people turn in each other to the authorities, and send them off to the concentration camps? So I read a lot. I give credit Anne Frank for introducing me to that world.

When SARS-CoV-2 was released, and then the lockdowns started, I referred back to my WWII learnings as a teenager and young adult. Those exact same fear tactics were being used. I implored my family and friends not to give in to fear, to realize that it was

False
Evidence
Appearing
Real.

I had little success. People said they listened to me, but really, it was lip service they paid. I’ve fared better than most because I didn’t fall prey to the tactics used by our overlords.


51 posted on 04/17/2023 6:12:44 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: DallasBiff
as suspicions turned to COVID and its vaccines

Righteously, despite the local vaxxtards.

52 posted on 04/17/2023 6:23:39 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: DallasBiff

The movement would end if the government would tell the truth about vaxx effects. It would never have started if the government could have had the moral capacity to tell the truth from the beginning.


53 posted on 04/17/2023 6:35:00 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: SamAdams76

The most epic example was the Buffalo Bills football player Damar Hamlin literally dropping DEAD on national TV. Then only because he was given immediate medical care by the best physicians available he was brought back to life after expiring twice.

The real tell was when he was interviewed later by Michael Strahan and refused to talk about what his doctors told him was the cause of his death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qoLYdZOLHY


54 posted on 04/17/2023 6:37:51 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: HandBasketHell
My mother has fallen twice due to dizziness that she never had before the vaxx. The more serious was in wal-Mart where she fell backwards and landed on the back of her head. Her older brother developed lymphodema in his legs and her younger brother developed Parkinsons. All of these issues happened after the vaxx, and they are healthy for their age before.

Mrs. JimRed developed Parkinson's-like symptoms and dementia within ten days after her third booster. The meds have not given any improvement; most days she's "sundowning" by 4 o'clock. She's had several falls; no serious injuries yet.

55 posted on 04/17/2023 6:38:38 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Tax-chick

“Her argument is simply that the social media trope causes pain for the families”

This is the argument they weaponized against Alex Jones.

If investigation causes “pain for the families” then it must end immediately.

It is code for “sit down and shut up”.


56 posted on 04/17/2023 6:41:19 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Fury
Re: 2 - How much were excess deaths up after COVID-19?

How much were excess deaths up after COVID-19 among otherwise healthy younger individuals?

My understanding is that most COVID deaths were to people already at risk of death.

57 posted on 04/17/2023 6:44:01 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Fury
Re: 2 - How much were excess deaths up after COVID-19?

How much were excess deaths up after COVID-19 among otherwise healthy younger individuals?

My understanding is that most COVID deaths were to people already at risk of death.

58 posted on 04/17/2023 6:44:01 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: DallasBiff

It will continue as long as the cover-ups and gaslighting by the powers-that-be continues. Only sunshine and honesty will end it.


59 posted on 04/17/2023 6:44:04 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Caipirabob

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60 posted on 04/17/2023 6:48:14 AM PDT by mikelets456
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