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To: eyedigress

Actually, Russia and the USA both willingly signed a defensive assurance agreement (treaty, filed as such at the UN).

It’s called the Budapest Memorandum.

Have you and your revisionist chums in the St Petersburg propaganda mills still not read it yet? Or, read it and didn’t understand it?

It is every bit as legitimate as NATO Article 5. Whether Ukraine is in NATO or not is utterly bloody irrelevant.

The agreement was, if both the USA and Russia wanted Ukraine to hand over the Soviet nuclear stockpile it was legitimately entitled to keep after the end of the Cold War, Russia and the USA must provide security guarantees to Ukraine that it would never be invaded or threatened by either party. Moreover, if anyone else tried to violate Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, both the USA and Russia would be OBLIGED to respond to Ukraine’ s call for assistance.

Both countries signed that commitment. As did the UK. China, Canada, France and the rest of NATO recognise that agreement.

It’s nobody’s fault but Russia’s that they violated that agreement repeatedly, despite knowing from day one it’d lead EVENTUALLY to Ukraine asking the US and UK come to their aid.

The USA is in Ukraine because Russia kept violating its obligations under the Budapest Memorandum.

It’s entirely the fault of Rashist Stalin-fetishist ideology that Russian men are dying in a pointless war in Ukraine.

All Russia had to do to no lose anyone to a war in Ukraine was, stop hitting itself over the head with the Sainted Spade of Chauvinism.

Russia has no legitimate claim to Crimea, or the Donbas, or Zaporozhzhia, or Kherson. None at all. Five treaties with Ukraine, the multilateral Budapest Memorandum, and the international UN Charter, all signed by Russia, invalidate all of Putin’s historical bollocks, USSR nostalgia, whataboutism and Peter the Great fantasies.


54 posted on 05/12/2023 4:49:42 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: MalPearce

“Russia has no legitimate claim to Crimea, or the Donbas, or Zaporozhzhia, or Kherson. None at all. Five treaties with Ukraine, the multilateral Budapest Memorandum, and the international UN Charter, all signed by Russia, invalidate all of Putin’s historical bollocks, USSR nostalgia, whataboutism and Peter the Great fantasies.”

Thank you!
So refreshing to read your well-informed comment.


60 posted on 05/12/2023 9:00:29 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: MalPearce

What business does the USA have with anything you posted?

Crimea is not a USA problem, neither is Ukraine.

World Police is a South Park Movie.


70 posted on 05/12/2023 7:15:18 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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