"For example, once our CIA worked with others in NATO to overthrow the Ukraine in 2014, they began building an army there for the purpose of provoking the current war in order to force regime change in Russia."
is nonsense. The Obama regime indirectly assisted the Ukrainians to get rid of Putin's puppet Yanukovych, but didn't lift a finger to help Ukraine when Russia invaded in 2014. That hardly sounds like they were trying to provoke a war, does it? And the military training and small supply of weaponry given since 2014 up to 2022 would be a rounding error in the Pentagon budget.
The real problem with the US government has been that it completely ignored Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union and assumed like Germany that economic ties would be sufficient to restrain Russian behavior. Putin thought he could restore Russia as a peer great power, use Germany to break NATO, and reestablish a Russian sphere of influence in Eastern Europe. But the current war shows that was simply a fantasy.
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts., pierrem15 wrote: This: "For example, once our CIA worked with others in NATO to overthrow the Ukraine in 2014, they began building an army there for the purpose of provoking the current war in order to force regime change in Russia."
is nonsense. The Obama regime indirectly assisted the Ukrainians to get rid of Putin's puppet Yanukovych, but didn't lift a finger to help Ukraine when Russia invaded in 2014. That hardly sounds like they were trying to provoke a war, does it? And the military training and small supply of weaponry given since 2014 up to 2022 would be a rounding error in the Pentagon budget.
The real problem with the US government has been that it completely ignored Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union and assumed like Germany that economic ties would be sufficient to restrain Russian behavior. Putin thought he could restore Russia as a peer great power, use Germany to break NATO, and reestablish a Russian sphere of influence in Eastern Europe. But the current war shows that was simply a fantasy.
The CIA's Nuland was caught on a hot mic making statements indicating the CIA helped bring about the coup. Recently there was an article saying this began with Hillary, when she couldn't get cooperation from the head of the Ukraine in 2010. The wheels started turning resulting in a CIA backed regime change in 2014, according to Nuland herself, and the immediate build up of an army.
https://crsreports.congress.gov
Updated February 27, 2023
U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine"Through the Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine,
established in 2015, the U.S. Army and National Guard,
together with military trainers from U.S. allies, provided
training, mentoring, and doctrinal assistance to the UAF
before the war. "https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12040
Then Merkel admitted that the only reason they agreed to MINSK II was to buy time to build the Ukraine's army. The US would object to CHina parking military assets on our border and so, Russia warned against doing so on his border. NATO wants to swap Putin for another puppet, like Zelensky, and this was their strategy for doing so.
As for your 'rounding error' remark - do you remember that Biden/Schumer/Pelosi and their relatives all 'do business' in the Ukraine (Money Laundering). They don't report to us where their graft goes - I'm sure the US paid the bulk of training and arming expenses, given that NATO never pays their fair share.
Forget it Jake, it’s Qtardtown.