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New Marine beatdown video calls into question innocence of the three soldiers: Clip shows one clutching bottle of beer with his shirt off and SHOVING teen boy... days after they said they were jumped by 40 'obnoxious' kids
Daily Mail UK ^ | May 31, 2023 | Joe Hutchison

Posted on 05/31/2023 12:31:48 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: BenLurkin

Wouldn’t viscous thugs be very sticky?


21 posted on 05/31/2023 1:04:49 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: ExTxMarine

No I am not arguing stomping on someones head repeatedly after they are down is okay.. not at all. We never did that, but there were certainly a few kicks to the ribs that were given in the heat of the moment.

This situation is very different, when you get outnumbered 40 to 3, you are now in a MOB situation... and that’s NOT a good place to be, for anyone, because a group of that size doesn’t have a “leader”, or even solid connection between the individuals. All it takes is 1 person in that situation to take it too far, and then the mob follows suit.

Please, don’t take my comments as me saying these teens were justified in what they did, that’s not the point I was tryin to make. I was merely pointing out that in my experience, I’ve personally witnessed young marines do VERY VERY STUPID things, including instigating situations that a sane person would never do.

I have no problem with these kids facing prosecution, but I am also not naive enough to just take the Marine’s story at face value without question.

These days nearly everything winds up on video somewhere, so I am sure the truth will come out.

If I had to venture a guess, the truth is the kids were being rowdy, and he marines weren’t quite as “perfect” as they claim to have been in dealing with them.

Let’s be honest, teenagers are pricks, and young men lack wisdom... its not a giant leap to see that the kids behavior and probably attitude and smart mouths got one of the marines to be very unwise, even if there intention was to keep it “civil”.


22 posted on 05/31/2023 1:10:52 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Canadian Nationalist

You sat on that account for 4 years before using it?


23 posted on 05/31/2023 1:14:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Morgana

When engaging a group of 40+ teens, make sure the following tactical advice is utilized:

1) Arrange the three Marines, each equipped with Squad Automatic Weapons, in a firing line with an approximate 25 yard interval.
2) Designate fields of fire to each Marine.
3) Have six claymore mines arranged 100 yards out, two to a field of fire.
4) String concertina wire out at about the 200 yard distance
5) Equip each marine with additional gear as follows: 4 grenades each, and a service pistol.

I believe, if they had set things up correctly, the Marines would have been victorious.


24 posted on 05/31/2023 1:17:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Canadian Nationalist

Troll.


25 posted on 05/31/2023 1:18:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: ExTxMarine

they will undermine victims that disprove or undermine the main narrative (whitey, especially male whitey = the worst thing in the world always).

Otherwise they prop up any felonious assaulter as a saint if they are the proper skin color or “victim class”.


26 posted on 05/31/2023 1:33:33 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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To: Morgana
I really do not like the Daily Mail, but at least they print things we do not see from the state side media. But they did not do their homework well on this one. Now granted, the writer likely does not know the area, but this error caught my eye:

"In the original minute-long clip posted to Facebook, the Marines were seen trying to walk up the steps outside the Pier Bowl as a group of teenagers shouted at them.

The pier is located at the base of a large amphitheater like arrangement of tiered streets with houses, condos and apartments. The entire area is called: "The bowl" It is about 1/2 mile across and 1/4 mile up the hill.

The steps they refer to are the steps that go from the main street (Avenida Del Mar) down to the base of the pier. The were leaving the crowded pier area and headed towards the, tram stop, restaurants, coffee joints and pizza place on Avenida Del Mar.

27 posted on 05/31/2023 1:35:33 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ( Biden-Fetterman in ‘24: It's a no brainer)
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To: Morgana

The article is propaganda meant to slander Marines/US.

The best type is to use a kernel of truth then directs it towards whatever goal they have. Here the kernel is a few young Marines got drunk and rowdy and 1 pushed a teen his size, or near. What makes the article bunk is a MOB of 50 or so BLMTIFA types takes their hate out on the Marines (and what they represent to them that is traditional conservative USA) and nearly kill then in a gang beating.

The unspoken message? Young BLmTifa types are not bad, traditional USA is the real enemy.


28 posted on 05/31/2023 2:21:58 PM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: HamiltonJay

Thanks for an honest reply. Not sure it went down that way, but it seems possible.


29 posted on 05/31/2023 2:33:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (So it begins...Pulled on 05/29/2023 4:49:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson, reason: TDS article)
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To: Morgana

So there ya have it. If you push a teenager, it’s perfectly fine and legal for dozens of them to gang stomp you half to death.


30 posted on 05/31/2023 2:48:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DesertRhino

Topless Marines? TTIWWOP!


31 posted on 05/31/2023 2:51:18 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m not sure it did either.. I am sure the truth will come out whatever it is


32 posted on 05/31/2023 2:59:25 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: DesertRhino
Puts me in mind of one of my friends who served with Marines in Nam. He wrote his friends complaining about not getting enough to eat. The letter got around and a group of kids sent him care packages which the media picked up. He was in a world of trouble with the brass and was forced to apologized to all the Marines on his base.

These guys are in for the same treatment I fear and may very well need a JAG lawyer.

33 posted on 05/31/2023 3:02:52 PM PDT by mware
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To: HamiltonJay

When my 5’ tall daughter got out of USMC boot camp, she was pretty full of herself. She went to a party with her brother and managed to pick a fight with a 6’ tall, 200 lb guy fresh out of Army boot camp.

He picked her up with one hand, tossed her across the room on to a couch, then said, “Say, you’re really cute!”

She was just smart enough to decide “cute” might have some advantages in life...particularly at 5’ 0” and 95 pounds.

Doesn’t really have anything to do with what happened here, other than just a funny story. And...maybe worth remembering the next time a 95 lb woman in a movie kicks the butts of 6 guys with 250 pounds of muscle, all at one time.


34 posted on 05/31/2023 3:15:24 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Jamestown1630

http://www.lerctr.org/~transit/healy/Uh_Yeah.mp3


35 posted on 05/31/2023 4:15:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Same here. Shame we have to get the news from DM


36 posted on 05/31/2023 5:53:53 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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To: BenLurkin

All in the interest of proper English and spelling.

As UK linguist David Crystal has said, when we lose a language, we lose “The expression of a unique vision of what it means to be human”.

Many influences - but especially the advent of the Internet and social media - are destroying English.

I’m on a mission :-)


37 posted on 05/31/2023 9:30:49 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Morgana

Now, this account I believe.


38 posted on 05/31/2023 10:22:38 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: HamiltonJay

Yep, your take sounds much like my take on this whole situation.

I am figuring it was a combination of rowdy teens, drunk Marines, and late-night bravado on both sides.


39 posted on 06/01/2023 4:04:56 AM PDT by ExTxMarine
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To: Mr Rogers

That is a cute story, I’m glad your daughter got snapped back into reality with a relatively safe interaction.

Yes, I always find movies amusing... Yes it’s very entertaining watching the hero single handedly beat a group of bad guys single handedly, but in the real world, that’s just not it works, even with the best training in the world.


40 posted on 06/01/2023 5:13:11 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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