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To: Morgana

I used to live in Jacksonville NC as a teen in HS...

Jarheads would arrive at the base nearby fresh from boot camp, and all full of themselves. Me and my friends would have run ins with them on occasion. Wasn’t all the time, but every so often, a few of them would be a bit too full of themselves, and (often full of booze as well) and would start stupid crap.

Let me say I applaud the drill Sergeants who tear these men down and build them back up to a point where they can be so full of themselves that they think they are invincible, and can take on anything... However, all your training in the world will not put you in a position to win a fist fight when you are outnumbered 2-3 (or more to 1).

I don’t know the details of this situation, but I can speak from first hand experience, that there are a few ex (Probably by now) marines who in their 50s now, who if they are honest, will tell you they started crap with a group of teen boys when they were young and fresh out of boot camp, and got beat down for it.

Again, I am not saying that is what happened here, but would it be out of character for some young marines after a few beers to instigate situations, not realizing exactly what they were getting into? No, it would not.


15 posted on 05/31/2023 12:54:51 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Your statement is not wrong.

Luckily for me, I was married right out of boot camp and already had a child while in high school, so I didn’t have time for that type of tomfoolery. But I saw way too much of it in my almost ten years.

Even with all that said, it does not make a 40-3 beatdown involving excessive force any more just, legal, or appropriate. Right?


18 posted on 05/31/2023 12:59:29 PM PDT by ExTxMarine
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To: HamiltonJay

Thanks for an honest reply. Not sure it went down that way, but it seems possible.


29 posted on 05/31/2023 2:33:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (So it begins...Pulled on 05/29/2023 4:49:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson, reason: TDS article)
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To: HamiltonJay

When my 5’ tall daughter got out of USMC boot camp, she was pretty full of herself. She went to a party with her brother and managed to pick a fight with a 6’ tall, 200 lb guy fresh out of Army boot camp.

He picked her up with one hand, tossed her across the room on to a couch, then said, “Say, you’re really cute!”

She was just smart enough to decide “cute” might have some advantages in life...particularly at 5’ 0” and 95 pounds.

Doesn’t really have anything to do with what happened here, other than just a funny story. And...maybe worth remembering the next time a 95 lb woman in a movie kicks the butts of 6 guys with 250 pounds of muscle, all at one time.


34 posted on 05/31/2023 3:15:24 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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