[allendale]

It is now very chic to disparage and lay hate on the Russians for Putin’s catastrophic and disastrous decision to invade Ukraine. Yet wonder what would have happened on D Day if the Russians did not fight like demons from 1941-1944 and inflicted over 2.5 million casualties on the German army. If the German army had been intact in June 1944 could America have liberated Europe in 10 months with relatively few casualties? How many Americans would not exist today because their grandfathers and fathers would have been killed or mutilated? America, like it or not, owes the Russian people a great debt.

[rbmillerjr]

Unfortunately, Russia cut an evil deal with Hitler to divide up Poland. Only when Hitler betrayed Russia, did the Soviets/Russians fight the bad guys.

Then, the price for that fight, was tens of millions of East Europeans enslaved by the Russians for 45 years.

[No name given]

Indeed.

[Gunslingr3]

It is now very chic to disparage and lay hate on the Russians for Putin’s catastrophic and disastrous decision to invade Ukraine. Yet wonder what would have happened on D Day if the Russians did not fight like demons from 1941-1944 and inflicted over 2.5 million casualties on the German army. If the German army had been intact in June 1944 could America have liberated Europe in 10 months with relatively few casualties? How many Americans would not exist today because their grandfathers and fathers would have been killed or mutilated? America, like it or not, owes the Russian people a great debt.

If the Nazis had defeated the Soviets there wouldn’t have been an Allied invasion of France. Most likely thousands of American lives saved in exchange for a Nazi Europe.