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Revisiting whether COVID-19 really killed several anti-vax conservative radio hosts
American Thinker ^ | 15 Jul, 2023 | Cicero2020

Posted on 07/15/2023 5:23:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: DugwayDuke
Over 1.1 million deaths from COVID in the USA alone. The vast majority were unvaccinated.

A good number of "COVID" deaths weren't caused by COVID. And you can't prove a single one was caused by "misinformation".

41 posted on 07/15/2023 10:40:51 AM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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MileHi wrote: “A good number of “COVID” deaths weren’t caused by COVID. And you can’t prove a single one was caused by “misinformation”.”

I’ll apply the same standard to you: “you can’t prove a single death was caused by the vaccines.”


42 posted on 07/15/2023 10:56:59 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
I’ll apply the same standard to you: “you can’t prove a single death was caused by the vaccines.”

Recent revelations from autopsies show that the clot-shot, what you call a 'vaccine', DID, and still does, kill people. But you are correct, you can't prove a 'single' death, because there have been so many already.

43 posted on 07/15/2023 11:02:50 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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RideForever wrote: “Recent revelations from autopsies show that the clot-shot, what you call a ‘vaccine’, DID, and still does, kill people. But you are correct, you can’t prove a ‘single’ death, because there have been so many already.”

If you’re referring to that ‘study’ by McCullough, that study was refutted within 24 hours of it’s appearance. This preprint has been removed by Preprints with The Lancet because the study’s conclusions are not supported by the study methodology.

BTW, the majority of the authors are affiliated with The Wellness Company. This company sells ‘wellness’ products to protect you from the COVID virus. McCullough is the chief scientific officer. The obvious conflict of interest is likely a reason the paper was removed.

FWIW, McCullough is one of those calling for a halt to the COVID-19 mRNA shots, contending there is a link between the vaccines and the apparent increase in reports of sudden deaths from cardiac arrest. So much for the argument that the anti-vaxxer community isn’t trying to prevent people from getting the vaccines.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/misinformation-swirls-around-unpublished-paper-185918429.html


44 posted on 07/15/2023 1:30:55 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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If you’re referring to that ‘study’ by McCullough, that study was refutted [sic] within 24 hours of it’s appearance. This preprint has been removed by Preprints with The Lancet because the study’s conclusions are not supported by the study methodology.

The methodology attempted to used the ICD-9 codes from the medical industry, and was shown the multiple changes by the CDC to the ICD-9 codes during CoVID made it impossible to use US data. They had to use European data version of U.S. data to contrive the report. It was a report done after the CDC added ICD codes for CoVID, then changed the values on some patient records to correct their corrections, rendering the data unreliable. So they had to turn to the European copy of the data.

I can understand why you would not present the intentional debasement of the data by the CDC in your comments.

45 posted on 07/16/2023 7:37:48 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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RideForever wrote: “They had to use European data version of U.S. data to contrive the report.”

Yes, this report was “contrived” meaning ‘having an unnatural or false appearance or quality’. The authors of this report are predominately associated with the ‘Wellness Company’ which sells homeopatheic remedies to COVID as alternatives to the vaccine. Conflict of interest.


46 posted on 07/16/2023 8:58:57 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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DugwayDuke wrote

Conflict of interest, ... as in the regulatory body of the CDC changing the values of CoVID info on patients' records after changing the definition of CoVID related data, thereby obliterating the distinction between damage from the actual CoVID virus and the genetic treatment inoculation, aka, 'clot-shot'.

We didn't hear of any 'sudden death' from 'vaccination' during testing, because, well, there was virtually no testing. It took a court order to have the test data released because it showed made up data used for the 'vaccination', and Pfizer tried to have that fact sealed by court order for 75 years.

These do not seem to be the actions of honest persons who already have a history of medical fraud in the past 20 years..

47 posted on 07/16/2023 12:22:44 PM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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RideForever wrote: “ as in the regulatory body of the CDC changing the values of CoVID info on patients’ records after changing the definition of CoVID related data, thereby obliterating the distinction between damage from the actual CoVID virus and the genetic treatment inoculation, aka, ‘clot-shot’.”

“We didn’t hear of any ‘sudden death’ from ‘vaccination’ during testing, because, well, there was virtually no testing. It took a court order to have the test data released because it showed made up data used for the ‘vaccination’, and Pfizer tried to have that fact sealed by court order for 75 years.”

Show me where the test data was ‘made up.’
Show me where the CDC changed patients records.


48 posted on 07/16/2023 2:31:58 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Show me where the test data was ‘made up.’
Show me where the CDC changed patients records.

Given your references, you probably can't find it in a search because it is the truth, and your radical right wing references don't deal with the truth. They try to bury it with court cases.
Funny, you didn't ask about the medical fraud case from over a decade ago ... why is that? Human life has no value to a bot?

49 posted on 07/16/2023 8:08:45 PM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: RideForever

RideForever wrote: “Given your references, you probably can’t find it in a search because it is the truth, and your radical right wing references don’t deal with the truth. They try to bury it with court cases.”

IOW, you can’t support with credible sources your claims that: the test data was ‘made up.’ or that the CDC changed patients records.

RideForever wrote: “Funny, you didn’t ask about the medical fraud case from over a decade ago ... why is that? Human life has no value to a bot?”

Funny, but when it’s demonstrated that you can’t support your claims you try to change the subject and resort to name calling.


50 posted on 07/17/2023 4:54:47 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: RideForever

Don’t waste your time with that ward room clerk. All he can do is reference Yahoo and Reuters pablum.

Here is a detailed break down how the CDC is playing “hide the salami”
https://theethicalskeptic.com/2022/10/24/houston-the-cdc-has-a-problem-part-2-of-3/

“CDC MMWR Reporting Problem-Indicator Flags

The principal concerns with regard to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Weekly Provisional Counts of Deaths by State and Select Causes and Wonder: Provisional Mortality Statistics are that the reports have begun to exhibit two primary apparent goals on the part of the CDC and its agency:

1.concealing excess deaths potentially caused by the mRNA vaccines, and
2.attempting to make mRNA vaccines falsely appear as uber-effective in saving lives.”

You can also read part 1 & 3 at the same place.


51 posted on 07/17/2023 5:20:00 AM PDT by Polynikes (Nicht geimpft Mensch 2nd Klasse)
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Here is a detailed break down how the CDC is playing “hide the salami” ...

Thank you. The KFF (Kaiser Family Foundation) has more specific examples here:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-07-04-cdc-manipulating-icd-codes-conceal-vaccine-deaths.html

52 posted on 07/17/2023 8:37:43 AM PDT by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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