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Van Allen Probes Reveal an Impenetrable Barrier in Space
Scitechdaily ^ | 12/01/2014 | By KAREN C. FOX, NASA'S GODDARD SPACE FLIGHT CENTER

Posted on 08/02/2023 10:12:42 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Freedom4US

The photo evidence you reference seems quite strong and the moon landings can be described as appearing to be real.

But the strongest argument for the moon landings is in the massive amount of trust we can place in the government and the media, in order to believe everything they tell us.

Two essential qualities producing this credibility come to mind: 1) competence and 2) benevolence.


61 posted on 08/02/2023 1:22:51 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Jamestown1630
I think he/she believes it was a hoax. They wrote the other day about coming to doubt the veracity of the moon shot.

Personally, I don't believe it was a hoax. I just thought I would throw that in. Apparently other posters made similar comments long before I read the article.

62 posted on 08/02/2023 1:25:04 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: reasonisfaith

We could also have trusted that the then USSR and China and other nation would have tattled if we had not gone to the moon.

Imagine if Putin wanted to rattle Americans’ cages by saying that the USSR knew Americans didn’t go to the moon and played along in order to get certain “concessions” from America!


63 posted on 08/02/2023 1:28:57 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: mdmathis6

This topic (Russian reaction) is covered in depth in this book:

https://www.amazon.com/One-Small-Step-Great-Dominate-ebook/dp/B07NB2QL13

We are talking quid pro quo from Nixon/Kissinger here.


64 posted on 08/02/2023 1:30:52 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: mdmathis6

Also, it seems to me that the effort to ‘fake it’ and keep that secret would be incredibly difficult. It’s much easier to believe what seems to all logic to be the case: we went to the Moon.


65 posted on 08/02/2023 1:31:02 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Hot Tabasco

Circumstantial and Factual evidence suggests we have not gone to the moon. The physical, technological, and financial limitations prevented both us and the Russians from achieving a moon landing up to this point. We may soon solve these daunting problems, however the current UFO ruse would suggest there are ulterior motives for these productions.


66 posted on 08/02/2023 1:32:21 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jamestown1630

One more book for anyone interested in this subject—author discussed/attacked (:-)) yesterday:

https://www.amazon.com/Moon-Man-True-Story-Filmmaker/dp/B09GHJPQSG

I think this guy is a true American hero.

Most Freepers hate his guts.

Regardless—this book is a page turner.


67 posted on 08/02/2023 1:33:24 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: mdmathis6

There is a deep state for each nation.

We can have no clear idea what the USSR or the CCP would have done.

What we can know for certain is the answer to the question of trust in government and its media.


68 posted on 08/02/2023 1:36:44 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Jamestown1630

Moon-zactly! LOL!


69 posted on 08/02/2023 1:40:44 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: cgbg

Are you one of those moon landing hoax idiots?


70 posted on 08/02/2023 1:42:06 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Circumstantial and Factual evidence suggests we have not gone to the moon.

Perhaps...

71 posted on 08/02/2023 1:43:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Nik Naym

I love taking flak—it lets me know when I am over the Deep State target.


72 posted on 08/02/2023 1:43:44 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

“We are not talking chopped liver here.”

No we aren’t.

We are talking morons.


73 posted on 08/02/2023 1:45:23 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: cgbg

“I love taking flak—it lets me know when I am over the Deep State target.”

Or it means you are being a jackass.


74 posted on 08/02/2023 1:47:08 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: cgbg

I’m a little concerned about your standards for ‘heroes’.


75 posted on 08/02/2023 1:47:11 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: fruser1
Thank you. Still, I'm going to post a scene from that episode showing the only appearance of the phaser rifle. When taking out a demigod, go boldly to where no man has gone before, or go home.

I'm not a nerd.

76 posted on 08/02/2023 1:52:00 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Jamestown1630

“It takes all kinds”

No it doesn’t. But we got ‘em!


77 posted on 08/02/2023 2:04:00 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: x
...and Aldrin may be an alien.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Buzz has been thoroughly naturalized, and, as Sean Hannity calls him, a GREAT American!

78 posted on 08/02/2023 2:08:11 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: reasonisfaith

Other evidence: https://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/features/21jul_llr.html

A cutting-edge Apollo 11 science experiment left behind in the Sea of Tranquility is still running today.

The Apollo 11 lunar laser ranging retroreflector array.

Ringed by footprints, sitting in the moondust, lies a 2-foot wide panel studded with 100 mirrors pointing at Earth: the “lunar laser ranging retroreflector array.” Apollo 11 astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin put it there on July 21, 1969, about an hour before the end of their final moonwalk. Fifty-four years later, it’s the only Apollo science experiment still running.

****SNIP****

Here’s how it works: A laser pulse shoots out of a telescope on Earth, crosses the Earth-moon divide, and hits the array. Because the mirrors are “corner-cube reflectors,” they send the pulse straight back where it came from. “It’s like hitting a ball into the corner of a squash court,” explains Alley. Back on Earth, telescopes intercept the returning pulse—”usually just a single photon,” he marvels.

The round-trip travel time pinpoints the moon’s distance with staggering precision: better than a few centimeters out of 385,000 km (about 240,000 miles), typically.

Targeting the mirrors and catching their faint reflections is a challenge, but astronomers have been doing it for 35 years. A key observing site is the McDonald Observatory in Texas where a 0.7 meter (2.3 foot) telescope regularly pings reflectors in the Sea of Tranquility (Apollo 11), at Fra Mauro (Apollo 14) and Hadley Rille (Apollo 15), and, sometimes, in the Sea of Serenity. There’s a set of mirrors there onboard the parked Soviet Lunokhud 2 moon rover—maybe the coolest-looking robot ever built.


79 posted on 08/02/2023 2:15:36 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Freedom4US

My old Granny always said that ‘it takes all kinds to make the world’; and it seems to take all kinds to make a web forum.


80 posted on 08/02/2023 2:35:42 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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