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1 posted on 08/08/2023 9:07:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The japs attacked us first.


2 posted on 08/08/2023 9:28:22 PM PDT by exnavy (Grow your faith, and have the courage to use it.)
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Oh gosh The Japanese are upset. Of course had they never sided with Hitler things might have gone differently


4 posted on 08/08/2023 10:13:11 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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Japan was essentially defeated before we dropped the first bomb. As such they refused to surrender though we had burnt their major cites to the ground with conventional bombing.

One must realize the warrior culture of Japan at this time. Though defeated it is more honorable to fight until the death though death is inevitable but honor in battle is of first importance though it be death.

We dropped the first bomb on Hiroshima and they refused to surrender. We dropped the second bomb on Nagasaki and they did surrender but oddly only because of the emperor. The War Lords wanted to fight to the end in a battle they knew was defeat but honorable defeat. The emperor demanded surrender even though he had no real power over the war lords. As he was the emperor it gave the war lords face saving and thus could surrender. If not for this the invasion of Japan would have been of great American blood but rivers of Japanese blood.


5 posted on 08/08/2023 10:15:55 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-roughneck-geologist- instructor pilot-almost chemist-pharmacist-retired.)
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Japan started the war and the USA stopped it.
Japan killed millions of people and the United States stopped them from killing more.


6 posted on 08/08/2023 10:57:29 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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They started it. And wonder what people in Nanking and dozens of other places have to say?

And people like talking about the starvation blockaid? That would have taken another year or 18 months. How many of our men, and our POWs would have died in that time? Even the ones that didn’t die, why should they have to spend another year of their lives in that hell just to appease modern revisionists?

They were an utterly vicious, cruel, and dirty enemy. After we nuked em, they have been as nice as people come. In my opinion, we should melted Mecca and Medina after 9/11.

The world would be unimaginably better to this very day. Bush was spineless.


7 posted on 08/08/2023 11:01:35 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Look up Unit 731 if you can stomach it. There are no prisoner walking around today with tattoos.

Every. Single. Prisoner was murdered. And in ways that woulda turned Mengele’s stomach.
On Chichi Jima, they committed cannibalism against captured downed US airmen.

We are friends now. But Japan deserved every blow it got and complete capitulation.


8 posted on 08/08/2023 11:07:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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The bombing of Japanese cities killed as many, if not more Japanese than the bomb. The difference is fire bombing required dozens of bombers and hundreds of sorties. Nuking only required one.


9 posted on 08/08/2023 11:14:59 PM PDT by Nachoman (Proudly oppressing people of color since 1957.)
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Homer Simpson did a great service by reprinting daily NYT front pages a few years back. These showed what was being done to Japan and what the rationale was.

The incendiary bombs were rotated about several Japanese cities in the months leading up to Hiroshima.

The death tolls from these were many, many times what Hiroshima was.

Leaflets and propaganda was aimed at convincing Japan that a big, big weapon was imminent.

They were warned again and again, and people felt bad about using the bomb.

But, after two spectacular nuclear explosions (not deadlier than a night of incendiaries) Japan got the drift.

They surrendered, saving maybe 5-10 million lives and preserving their country to rise again.

The bomb saved a lot of lives.

10 posted on 08/09/2023 2:44:10 AM PDT by caddie (We must all become Trump, starting now!)
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bkmk


11 posted on 08/09/2023 2:48:16 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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I am sure that Truman also considered the adage (attributed to Gen. Patton) that in war the objective is not to die for your country but to make the enemy die for his country. When considering the estimates of American casualties regarding an ground invasion of the Japanese islands, the Patton adage looms large.


12 posted on 08/09/2023 5:33:57 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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“Four years earlier”

Back in the ‘Better Red Than Dead” days the horrors and immorality of nuclear weapons were screamed from every cafeteria tabletop and slobbered over by every useful idiot on air or in print.

August 6th always brought the blonde bimbos chasing and collaring Colonel Paul Tibbets, commander of the Hiroshima mission. They would shove microphones in his face and demand breathlessly....

“Do you have any regrets on dropping the atom bomb and killing so many people?”

For many years, he would remain silent. Then, toward the end of his life he said in reply......

“Yes. My regret is that I did not have the opportunity to drop it four years earlier.”

Or words to that effect.


13 posted on 08/09/2023 5:40:22 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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The fact is that the atomic bombs saved millions of lives, both American and Japanese.


14 posted on 08/09/2023 5:47:50 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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Read the Franks book years ago and recently re-read it. Highly recommended.

Japan set the rule for that war and the rule was no mercy for anyone considered an opponent.

POWs - no mercy as they were tortured, beheaded, enslaved and worked/starved to death.

Battlefield wounded - no mercy as they were bayonetted.

Unarmed corpsman and medics with red crosses on their helmets - no mercy and use the red cross as a target. Kill the medical help and kill those who could have been helped.

Wounded soldiers in hospital beds - no mercy as they were bayonetted.

Western civilian internees - no mercy as they were enslaved and worked/starved to death.

Asian civilians, Chinese, etc. - no mercy as they were slaughtered in the millions.

The US played by Japan’s rule and had no mercy. Too bad for Japan, but they had it coming.


16 posted on 08/09/2023 6:02:47 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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If you don’t want Hiroshima and don’t want Nagasaki don’t do Pearl Harbor. Pay back comes with interest.


20 posted on 08/09/2023 4:16:59 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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How many times does it need to be said?! The use of the bombs was NECESSARY. For me if for no other reason than it saved one airman’s - marine’s - sailor’s - soldier’s life. Curtis Le May said it himself in an interview I saw: end the war as quickly and as soon as possible.
21 posted on 08/09/2023 5:01:06 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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Watching a replay of Jon Stewart saying Harry Truman was a war criminal turns my stomach.


24 posted on 08/09/2023 5:09:33 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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