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Opinion: Threats against the president are not protected speech, but questions remain in Provo killing
Deseret News ^ | 8/11/23 | Deseret News Editorial Board

Posted on 08/11/2023 9:50:47 AM PDT by LiberalismDestroys

Many Americans were no doubt surprised Wednesday by reports that the FBI had shot and killed a Provo man who had posted threats against President Joe Biden and other Democratic elected and appointed officials on social media. The shooting appears to be the latest manifestation of just how deep and potentially dangerous the nation’s political divide has become to some Americans. Graphic and specific threats of violence are indeed disgusting and concerning. Such threats are not protected free speech, and federal agents cannot afford to take physical threats to the president or other officials lightly. However, the incident was a tragedy that left many questions unanswered, including why an alternative method of approach and arrest, rather than the early morning SWAT action, was not attempted for the 75-year-old suspect who, neighbors said, had limited mobility. Could he not be investigated and monitored further or arrested and detained when he was headed out away from his home arsenal?

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; craig; fbi; gearqueers; provo; robertson; swat; utah
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1 posted on 08/11/2023 9:50:47 AM PDT by LiberalismDestroys
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To: LiberalismDestroys

“Threats against the president are not protected speech”

Unless the president is Donald Trump- then anything goes. F’ing hypocrites


2 posted on 08/11/2023 9:53:27 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: LiberalismDestroys

Either “America’s premier law enforcement agency” is incompetent, or evil.

They knew there was no active assassination plot that day. They could have easily confirmed he was at home and going nowhere and probably not capable of going anywhere.
There are 50 ways they could have taking him into custody peacefully.

They opted for an assault with a full strength infantry equipped platoon of over 30 men in full war gear, a tank and they hit his place at 6am. They are either complete cowards, utterly unskilled, or jackbooted thugs.

J Edgar was no prize. But in his day two clean cut men in sport jackets and ties would have knocked in his door at a reasonable hour and dealt with it professionally.


3 posted on 08/11/2023 9:58:54 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: LiberalismDestroys
Gear queers gonna gear queer.

Just after daybreak, so they got to wear their "Operator" sunglasses...

4 posted on 08/11/2023 9:59:54 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: DesertRhino
They opted for an assault with a full strength infantry equipped platoon of over 30 men in full war gear, a tank and they hit his place at 6am.

A message for us Trump voters.

5 posted on 08/11/2023 10:01:08 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: LiberalismDestroys

Define “threat.”

Is “f*** Joe Biden” a threat? Sounds painful.


6 posted on 08/11/2023 10:02:20 AM PDT by fwdude (.)
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To: LiberalismDestroys
Following Biden's Instructions
7 posted on 08/11/2023 10:02:45 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: LiberalismDestroys

The short answer is No.

When you’re dealing with beauracrats of limited intelligence they are hardwired by rigid policies that don’t allow them to think outside the box. Further, their political bias tilts them to the hardline approach only for one side of the political aisle. When was the last time we heard reports of ANY action against the many left-wing nut jobs that threatened—or actually initiated—violence against a Republican?

Furthermore, the desire for certain personalities to “Play Army” makes it difficult to override with common sense.

To me, the sad part of this story is the deluded Ultra Maga victim’s failure to see the destructive (to him) path he was headed down. I absolutely despise the ENTIRE democrat party and its fascist membership, and I feel many of them are worthy of death—but by legal means.


8 posted on 08/11/2023 10:03:39 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: LiberalismDestroys

Better question is what determines who is presidentia and ares is afforded ah the free speaking impedimented pro tec shun
I do not recall a lot of lavishment of the subject matter wrt our last real president Trump! He was pretty much dissed and wished dead at will.
?????


9 posted on 08/11/2023 10:06:26 AM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: DesertRhino

dealt with it professionally.

Today’s FBI brings new meaning to the above.

“We the People” know it for what it is. MURDER!!!!

It isn’t the first time.

It won’t be the last until sane, and honest people are back in charge.


10 posted on 08/11/2023 10:09:02 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: LiberalismDestroys

Fine.

Put a watch on him.

Attacking his home stinks of the Clinton massacre at Waco.

75 years old.

FBI goons.


11 posted on 08/11/2023 10:10:56 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: LiberalismDestroys

Release the body cam footage.


12 posted on 08/11/2023 10:13:59 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: LiberalismDestroys

the FBI had been there months ago over his social media posts.

Why didn’t they arrest him then ?

Give him a trial, and if found guilty, sentance him.

No.

Rolled up full combat issue
flasbanged him
shot him to death,
and had his body dragged out into the street
to lie there

until her neighbors

and the nation

all got the drift.

Remember Richard Jewel ?
Waco ?
Ruby Ridge ?


13 posted on 08/11/2023 10:24:58 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961

they send a combat issue fire team to his place, flashback him, shoot him and drag his lifeless body into the street and let it lie there for a couple hours for his neighbors and family and nation to see as a subtle message not to f_:% with the Biden crime family imho


14 posted on 08/11/2023 10:27:03 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: blueunicorn6

When was the last time a SWAT Team arrested anybody? They are primarily an EXECUTION SQUAD. It is only by accident if their intended victim lives.


15 posted on 08/11/2023 10:28:01 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: LiberalismDestroys
Yeah! Just ask Madonna…..oh, wait….
16 posted on 08/11/2023 10:34:05 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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To: God luvs America

Good point. Should be repeated.


17 posted on 08/11/2023 10:37:30 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: LiberalismDestroys

They need to investigate who on social media this guy was communicating with, and were any of them Feds.

Was this another entrapment like the Whitmer “kidnapping” ?


18 posted on 08/11/2023 10:40:55 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: kiryandil
“They opted for an assault with a full strength infantry equipped platoon of over 30 men in full war gear, a tank and they hit his place at 6am.“

The FBI, well armed pussies, are ready to kill old grumpy white males. Curious what the press would do if the FBI did this to an old grumpy black male who threatened Trump?

19 posted on 08/11/2023 10:40:56 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: OHPatriot

Democrat goons.


20 posted on 08/11/2023 10:42:14 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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