Tucker on Twitter, episode 16: The Robert Kennedy Jr. interview

Once again, it is time for an episode of ‘Tucker on Twitter,’ this time featuring an interview with Robert Kennedy, Jr.:

Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle pic.twitter.com/RMr5VZVqSM

We won’t pretend we can verify very much about what Kennedy is saying. But we do think his discussion on the border is very much on point. We have long approached the issue from a humanitarian viewpoint and what we are doing right now is a humanitarian disaster. We are tempted to write a separate post on that subject.

We also simply appreciate hearing a deep discussion of views we don’t necessarily agree with. One should always challenge one’s own viewpoints.

And like last time, we find the jabs at Fox News to be interesting. The gloves are coming off, at least a little.

And to follow up on a previous episode, as of now his interview with former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund has only 11.8 million views. Which is weird because we thought the discussion was much more interesting and newsworthy than the Tate brothers, who absolutely buried him in ratings. Of course, there have been allegations of view counts being manipulated in the past, but we haven’t seen them be substantiated.

Still, Carlson seems to be settling into a pattern mostly of interviews, with less of his commentary, at least for now. Maybe he is finding it easier to find interviews than in the past.

Tucker is allowing RFK Jr. to speak the truth about Ukraine, COVID, and JFK’s assassination.

Yes, if what Kennedy is saying about Fauci is true … he’s a pretty vile human being. Er, a more vile human being than we previously believed, that is. But see our comment about not being able to verify what RFK Jr. said.

😳 This interview contains several bombshells: - RFK has been refused secret service security detail for no reason - Russia's nuclear weapons are probably far better than ours - Anthrax was most likely an inside job - Fauci shifted his experiments offshore to China to avoid US…

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We have seen scientists on Twitter who said that you can see clear signs of tampering. We don’t know if that means one group is right, or wrong, or if there is a way their views can be reconciled, but it is worth considering.

New Tucker reaction pic just dropped: https://t.co/AgUn1gVjvK pic.twitter.com/RhtBAdbBKF

Pompeo to Kennedy less than a month ago: Top echelon of CIA staff does not believe in democracy. https://t.co/6SNO7YOolL

Opens with Tucker saying he's going to do the only interview with RFK in the past 15 years that doesn't mention vaccines.

I don't see how that's a good thing. We should be talking about it ad nauseum until something is done about it. Can't let up the pressure.

The funny thing is eventually they do talk about vaccines, but in a very indirect way.

Tucker Episode 16 with RFK Jr. This is the first episode that actually showed up in my feed. https://t.co/7HsQx4EB8S

We have seen allegations of suppression of Carlson’s shows. Last time, people claimed that although they set notifications, they didn’t get any. This author has set notifications on both his main and backup accounts, and got both.

Which doesn’t mean the complaints aren’t true. It is very easy for TSMSFKA Twitter to be very different for each person, including by manipulation by the company. We’re just sharing our data and you can make of it what you will.

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Ep. 16 RFK Jr. explains Ukraine, bio-labs, and who killed his uncle

If you’re interested in why we have found ourselves at war with Russia, or who killed his uncle, President Kennedy, and why, it’s worth watching.

Bobby Kennedy, Junior, thank you for joining us.So I noticed when he showed up, you’ve been on the road for weeks you had no Secret Service with you, which is a little weird given your people that your father was murdered while running for president, as you now are. Why wouldn’t you have Secret Service protection? Well, I, you know, I did do a tweet on that that got 30 million views.When? When we got rejected?We applied in May for Secret Service protection. There are actually the Secret Service protection was only allocated to the nominees of the parties.Prior to 1968, when my father was killed, they changed the law immediately and all of the people who are running against him, including.Including George Wallace immediately got Secret Service protection.So the law says that you’re entitled to Secret Service protection automatically 100 days out.But the president also has discretion to give Secret Service protection to any candidate, any candidate for any reason. And there are criteria, which is that you have to have.15% of polling results for a limited period of time, but he even could overrule that, for example.president obama was given secret service protection 441 days out or fighting over 551 days out, even though he had only, I think, 5% support at that time.My uncle Teddy was given Secret Service protection 450 days.And even though he had not even declared for his presence, he had some Carter. He and Carter hated each other. Carter.I was President Carter was, you know, the president of his own party and Teddy been enormously critical of him and personally.They had, they had a very personal antipathy from one another and he ended up running against them. But when he was moving into that decision to run Carter in a very classy move.He gave them Secret Service protection.Oh, we apply for it. I get a lot of threads, a lot of tests threads, and I get, you know, a lot of people who are, for example, about two weeks ago, a mentally ill person made it to the second story of my house. And that is a very, very common inside your house, inside my house.Before you know somebody who is working there.I stopped them and then call the police.And we have a.We gave the Secret Service a 67 fact. Gavin de Becker, who you’ve had on this show. Yeah, there’s the premier, runs the premier.Security Service in the world and put together a 67 page report which included 28 pages of you know of all the threats of you know, typical threats against me and and other.And to show that I should have Secret Service protection.And we, I assume the president would give it to me because, you know, it just seems like bad judgment not to give it to me, you know, if you go even on my Twitter feed.Probably one out of, I don’t know, every 30 or 40 comments says, oh, you’re gonna get killed or something like that. You know, just takes notice of the peculiar threats to my family who are family members who are in this business. So it’s something that you know, the the.Average American is aware of and your name is Robert F Kennedy. Yeah, and the.And so it was our decision I got.A letter? Uh. Gavin actually got the letter because he had been doing. And by the way, I’m going to say this, the Secret Service themselves were wonderful.They were very, very encouraging and they were very helpful at every step along the way and I I believe, and I can’t speak for them.That I believe that there is Sumption was that they were going to get Secret Service protection. In fact they told Gavin we’re going to send somebody out there within 10 days. They interview Sheryl and Bobby and.To, you know, to tell them what it’s gonna look like because there’s a lot of questions about, you know, do I go to the gym to have them, you know, all of these questions that I don’t know the answers too. And they they come and they have it. They have a standard process.For informing them. But then they went to work and they said oh I’d decision is made very quickly. Within 14 days is what they told us and they said we have eight details standing by ready to go, so we can do this very quickly.And then they went to art, and for 88 days we didn’t hear from him. And then I got the letter from the orcas.Alexander Mayorkas, who’s the director of DHS.I’m saying that we’ve determined that you don’t need Secret Service, but it it’s very obvious, and you’ve confirmed it, that there are threats against your life, against your family.That’s known.And so if they deny you protection.And they know that. What message are they sending? I don’t really know what they are.They’re doing and by the way, you know, we’ve looked and there’s a guy called Jeremy Hammond.Who’s done a really good article, really thorough article about the past and he was not able and we were not able to find a single presidential candidate.When requested protection from the president and was not given protection, you know Herman Cain got it I think 500 days out. Jesse Jackson, Shirley Chisholm, George Bush and Ronald Reagan got it something 5 or 600 days out when they first ran. So it’s just.100 operating procedure.And particularly people who are polling around the cell, but anywhere over 15%, which I have been for four or five months now.On our, you know, regarded as it’s been treated as pro forma and I am the outlier, I’m the single outliner that we could find that was denied Secret Service. Why do you think that is?I think I’m like, you know, I think the DNC is playing hardball and let let’s say this, I think the least malevolent interpretation that you can put on it.Is that they know that I’m gonna have to have some kind of Security Service.And typically would cost me, you know to do to do real Security Service between 100 and $200,000 a month because you have to pay the protectors, you have to pay for their transportation of course you have to pay for the cars and.The hotel is the foods and all this and it’s very expensive because I’m traveling every day.So I think they, you know, they probably feel like they can bleed me white by, you know, making making sure that I’m not and I’m not spending that money on advertising or organization, but I have to raise a lot of money.Are my own protection. But I I don’t know. I mean, I’m just speculating about that. Does it strike you that the Biden administration pays for personal security for Zelensky but not for you? No. Well, you know, listen, John Bolton has still has a Secret Service detail.Still, yeah. Still, he hasn’t been in government in years.and you didn’t do a good job in all the president’s family have secret Service details. You know Hunter has a Secret Service detail.When he goes to court every day, he has four or five cars that are coming with him in a very, very big detail. Oh, and you know many government officials who are ex government officially, like with the Secret Service told us and what? And you can go to look at Jerry Harris, Hammonds, Jeremy Hammond ‘s report.Uh, which you can find on I I think you just go on the Internet but Jeremy Hammond and you know RFK, Secret Service.I’m II he, you know he shows that that literally nobody knows presidential candidate in many many other people are receiving it. But I and I really like an outlier. So I mean that raises the larger, I mean you’re running against Biden, right. So obviously you’re not on his Christmas card list anymore.But.It does raise the bigger question, Why do people in Washington have this?And not just in government but also in media have this kind of special loathing for you, this hatred.i don’t Dishonesty of it that you know virtually every article.Contains. I don’t know that I cannot answer that question I I am.I’m kind of, I’m shocked, even though, you know, I’ve been.I say maligned for many years because the stuff that I was doing with vaccines.The the kind of the uniformity of the vitriolic against me and the mainstream media and the dishonesty of it that you know virtually every article.Contains not just outright, not just mischaracterizations, but also just outright lies, things that any fact checker could look up and determine we’re not true.And they all are doing it, whether it’s Vanity Fair or whether it’s the Atlantic Monthly or Washington Post, Boston Globe.Umm.There’s just there’s virtually no exception. What do you think your your crime is?I think part of it is that.There’s been, you know, and again, I don’t know. I can’t explain it. Somebody else. I know somebody will explain it in a way. At one point we’ll go that makes sense. But right now what it seems to me is that.There’s been this alignment, this political alignment that I think really started with Fox News back, you know, when Roger was running things there, where he, he overtly made it a political network. He had aligned it with the Republican Party and he said we’re going to push their agenda.And up until then that is considered been considered journalistic ethical breach. Now he’ll be the the networks where we’re supposed to at least.Pretend neutrality and.And the newspapers as well. But now I think that business model works so well for Fox again that I think MSNBC and CNN.Adopted the same business model. And then there’s been this big consolidation in the media where there really is no independent media. You have every newspaper in this country, every radio station, every TV station.I’m almost all the billboards and most of the large Internet content providers that are now owned by five companies. You know, that was illegal under the 1928 communication the Radio Act.Are on today. It’s been that has been what’s happened. We’ve had this big consolidation and I think the profit models for Wall Street which now you know is Black Rock and Vanguard and Save St. which all in the mall and they have to.Of the news divisions have become business models. Business.Profit centers.And they’ve aligned themselves. They’ve figured out that their strategy is to align themselves with the DNC or the RNC as the only thing I can. That’s the best explanation. It’s probably not a very good one, but then you’re the way this uniformity Oh well. But its effect is to ignore stories that are.Objectively, the most important stories. Wherever you fall on those questions, there’s no denying that the war in Ukraine is changing the world will change history.Will assist up. As a footnote, that’s a that’s a book.And yet the coverage of it is like not even does so for example.President, That’s much more consequential. What’s the most consequential? But it’s, yeah, coverage of me, which is there’s no questioning of these orthodoxies. And when it comes to the Ukraine war, I mean, we’re being lied to about it. In what way? Well, I mean, we were lied to from the beginning. You know, we had this comic book.Action.Which we see on every war there’s bad guy who’s like you know unspeakably evil. Yes. Who’s planning world conquest or terrorist attack on you know the on the on America.And we have to be the good guys going in and stop and and you know the Ukraine, the background of Ukraine war is much more complex than that. You know the the US.Has been involved and particularly the neocons in the White House. I wouldn’t say particularly, I’d say a group of people that are known as neocons.Since 2001 I’ve been talking about putting NATO in Ukraine. Now in and I’ll give you some background.In 1992, the walls came down in the Soviet Union collapse.Gorbachev went to Tony Blair and to President Bush, who were liberated the UK and US presidents at that time, and said I’m going to do something extraordinary that basically is going to have the rest of Russian history black branding me as a traitor to my country. I’m going to withdraw 400,000.Soviet troops from East Germany.And I’m going to allow you to reunify under NATO troops. So you’re gonna move. NATO troops are hostile, A hostile force.And our barracks in our base is I’m going to do that and the only commitment I want from you.Is that once I allowed Germany to reunify to become part of NATO, that you will never move NATO further to the east? Because we’re gonna now release all of these Soviet states that were part of the Soviet Union.You’re going to become independent States and we don’t want NATO moving into those, and James Baker, who is the Secretary of State at that time, famously said.We we promise that we will not move NATO one inch to the east.Gorbachev now did that and he’s now, you know, despised in in Russia.And and then in 1996 and 1997, so five years later.Serving the Brazinski who was the first king of the father of the Neo Con movement. The Neo Con with the Neocons.Represent in a you know in a sentence.It is that they were group of people who believed and you know, Donald Rumsfeld and Jonathan, you and Paul Wolfowitz, Robert Kagan, Victoria Newland, who’s now at the top State Department official.Their belief was that the US had won the Cold War and that victory gave us.The the privilege of dominating the world using our superior military unipower status. Our superior military status for the next century so.Their principal blueprint document is called Project for New American Century. In other words, America.Would own the 21st century. So Brezinski.Says OK, we should start start this process.By moving NATO into all the former satellite states. Well, that and this was 1997. At that time, George Cannon was still around. Now George Cannon, as you know, as the principal architect of the Cold War containment policy, he’s arguably the most important, most respected diplomat and statesman in American history.Oh, he said. If you do that, you are going to provoke a violent response from Russia. They cannot live with NATO on their borders. They cannot anymore than we would live with.You know, with that Soviet alliance in Mexico and and and Canada.The at that time that the Bill Perry was, was Clinton Secretary of State and Bill Perry said if you do this, you go forward with this plan, I’m going to resign because it’s so foolhardy. You are you are forcing Russia.Into it violent military response and the so the US ambassador Soviet Union at that time.Who is now?The head of the of the CIA.Said the same thing it is. It’s the worst mistake America can make.The little NATO to the east. So we went ahead and did it. We moved it not one, not one inch, but 1000 miles.14 countries and then we put nuclear ready missile launchers, Aegis missile systems which are made by Lockheed and can take Tomahawk missiles.12 minutes from Moscow.We could in 12 minutes decapitate the entire leadership of Russia.And we put those in Poland and Romania and.We then tried to move it into you. They don’t, do you, grant? So you remember when my uncle.When when Russia puts up put missile systems, nuclear missile systems in Cuba and my uncle would have had to invade.He was able. The reason Russia put them there then is because we had put nukes, Jupiter missiles in Turkey and Italy.My uncle and father made a secret deal with Ambassador Don’t Brennan.Where are we? Where? They said. And look, we understand you’re angry. You cannot live with Jupiter missiles in Turkey.That’s why you put your missiles in Cuba. If you remove your mission, Cuba, within six months we will remove ours from Turkey. But nobody says what the deal was.And that’s what happened. So now we’re back and we’ve again put, you know, nuclear, nuclear ready, missile systems are all right next to Russia.And now we want to go through the one thing that Russia has said and Putin said again and again and again. This is a red line before put.The Russian leadership was saying it is a red line. You cannot go into Ukraine.The Russians have been invaded three times from you. Our country has never been invaded. The Russians were invaded 3 * 3 to care, Craig.The last time they were invaded by Hitler killed between 20 and 40 million Russians. Hitler killed one out of every seven Russians.Yeah, and my uncle’s speech to his most famous speech in American University and in 1963.In July of 1963.He said to the American people, he he said, you know, we are all taught we want one World War 2, but we didn’t want to World War 2 the Russians wanted.And the sacrifice they made to destroy Hitler was beyond anything Americans can imagine. He was trying to tell the American people, You have to put your yourselves, ourselves, in their position, understand with what they’re doing.And he said.He said.A third of the country was leveled. Every city the forest burned. The city were leveled.The forest and fields burn. Imagine if that happened from the coast of the East Coast of the United States, that every city, forest and field from here to Chicago. That’s what the Russians put up. Oh, we have to understand this fact that are Ukraine is a red line. The invasion came through Ukraine.And they can’t live with it. It’s an it’s a security issue for them that is beyond our almost beyond our comprehension.And so, you know, we’ve had. So that suggests the point is war with Russia. The point was war with Russia and in fact.You know you can’t send that again and again that when he was out and and let me get back to that, OK, Because that is absolutely true.The umm.Biden, you know, is as well. First of all, in 2014, to go through with the modern history 2014.There are riots and it’s called the Madonna rebellion, Rebellion in Ukraine.Which we’re not told that we are financing those riots. Then the newspapers never told us, our government ever told us.USA idea, which is the CIA front, put $5 billion into funding those riots.Those riots lead to the to a coup d’etat against the first elected, democratically elected government of the Ukraine.It was government that refused to choose sides and to say we’re going to be on the side of the web, so we wanted them out.A month before that government is overthrown, Victoria Newland was, you know, the part part of the the the centerpiece of the Neo Con ideology and who is now a high level official in the State Department.As a secret call with the US ambassador, which is tape recorded and is now public, which anybody can go and look up.Where she is picking the new cabinet for the Ukraine which for Ukraine which is you know which is a few as western cabinet so they’re picking the new government of month before the old government is overthrown is that how democracies that democracy Victoria Newland picks your government pull that that’s the the point is you guys say ID.Doesn’t really do.And the CIA don’t do democracy. Like, you know, the CIA is overthrown, I think 83 governments between 1947 and 1997, that’s a third of the government summer and most of them were democracies. Oh, it doesn’t do. It doesn’t do democracy. It does good. It does. So then you have to put the rest of this history and we put in a US.Well, Western government.The rush, everybody says, well, the Russians started this by invading Crimea, but put yourself in Putin’s position, and I’m not an apologist for Putin, by the way. He wanted Ukraine. It was illegal. My son went over there and fought against it, you know, and and risked his life in the US in the Car given rebellion.I’m not making excuses for him. What he did was brutal.It was illegal and it was unnecessary, but we have to understand our role in the provocations.And so so.If you’re in Putin’s position now, you’re looking at Ukraine. And Ukraine is being run by a wet a pro U.S. government.What’s the first thing he thinks? They’re going to take? Vladivostok, which is the port, and the Crimea on the Black Sea, which has been a Russian port. They’re only warm water port.What’s 347 years is where the Russian Navy is, their sub base. It’s everything else. And he says Now this new government is going to fight the US Navy and to take over our facilities. We gotta go in there and take it back.So he goes into Crimea. He goes in and takes Crimea without killing, without firing a shot or killing a certain a a single person.The grubby Crimean population is is largely Russian, and they welcome the invasion.So, you know, again, I’m not making excuses for him, but I’m saying we have to understand, my uncle always said we have to understand the the, the, the position of our adversaries. And you know what? What forces are they dealing with?I’m so so then.In 20, then the Russians out. Now there’s, you know, as soon as we put in that new government, the first rule they passed.Is to make the Russian language essentially illegal in Donbass and Lucas.We’re 90% of the population, Russia.And they and they’re there’s and peaceful uprising which people begin dying. You know they they turn violent now which side made them violent.As a dispute, but it’s not a dispute. The Russians were now being treated. The Russian ethnic Russian population in Ukraine is now being treated like redheaded stepchildren. And they’re not, you know, they’re being slapped around and they’re being abused and they’re not being allowed to practice their culture or their language.And so there’s a vote then in the in in the Maslyukov, where they vote 90 to 10 to join Russia. Russia says no. Putin said no, I don’t want you, but let’s sign an agreement.That protects you. So they put together an agreement with France, Germany and Russia.Call the Minsk accords. The Minsk accords say leave Donbass and Lukasz as part of Ukraine, but make them semi autonomous so they can speak their own language and so the Russians who live there are going to be protected from violence by the government.And and.The the only the the Russian parliament or the Ukrainian parliament?Won’t ratify the Minsk accords, but France agreed to it, Germany agreed to it, and Putin agreed to it. So then Sowinski runs.In 2019, Solinsky is a comedian, and he’s an actor.And I’m not saying that it derogatory way because my wife is a comedian and actor, but I’m saying it because here’s a guy with no political background.Who wins the election with 90% of the vote? Why did he win the election? He won the election because he ran on a peace platform. He ran promising that he would sign the Minsk accords.He gets into office the minute he gets there and he told everybody, I’m going to sign the Minsk accords and settle the peace with Russia.He he suddenly pivots. And the we don’t know what happened, but the what? The rational assumption.Here’s what the US government told him. He could not do that. So that Victoria Newland and Anthony Blanken and Avril Haynes. Oh, who’s the DNI Director of National Intelligence?You cannot have a peace with Russia. Plus people within, you know, ultranationalists within Ukraine told him. If you sign that, we’re going to kill you. And a lot of people say, but anyway if they threaten him with that, and that is pretty well documented.Then.Russia invades, but Russia only invades. And so we say, oh, look, you know, Putin is trying to take over Europe.But.But they only send it 40,000 troops.I think there’s three and a half million people. And yeah, so they clearly did not want to take the country.He wanted, he clearly wanted, to bring people to the negotiating table. He did not send in enough troops.They take all of Ukraine.So umm, so then and they Watsky comes and we now know this and this recent information.In March of 2022, Selenski and Putin.Agree on a peace agreement that’s based upon the Minsk Accords? There’s It’s like Minsk Accords 2.0.And Zelensky initials that the Russians initially.And Russia begins withdrawing its troops from Ukraine.And what happens, President Biden?Sounds Boris Johnson over there to torpedo the agreement and make make Zolensky tear it up. And then we go to war. 350,000 Ukrainian kids and now dead.And and you know 40 or 50,000 Russians so and and and that month April that April is when they signed in March April we Boris Johnson was sent over there to torpedo it and that month Lloyd Austin who’s the Secretary of Defense under.I under Biden.Is asked why are we at war with Russia, with in Ukraine and he said our purpose in this war.Is to exhaust the Russian army and degrade its capacity to fight anywhere else in the world. But that is not what they’re telling us. But but do they? And widen that month says When he’s asked about the war in Ukraine. He says our purpose is regime change in Russia.So again, that has nothing to do with the Ukraine, what that means the Ukraine.Is a proxy and essentially A struggle between two superpowers, between Russia and the United States.And you know, we’ve now committed $113 billion over there and just put that in perspective.Lee.Total budget of EPA is 12 billion. The total budget of the CDC is 12 billion. We’re sending 113 billion Hubbard.When I’m when I’m Mitch McConnell.Was asked how can we do this? You know, when our country when you’re cutting food stamps and cutting Medicare, cutting food stamps in 30 million Americans, I think Medicare to 15 million Americans.I’m not gonna have any health insurance. How can we spend hundreds and 113 billion over there if we if we don’t, if we have that 130 millionaire, we wouldn’t have had to cut One food stamp payment.And he said, well, don’t worry, the money’s not staying in Ukraine. It’s all coming back to military contractors in the United States. Well, so that’s interesting because then you look at, you know who owns those military contractors and and you see who gets on CNN to, to pump up the Ukraine war.There’s a bunch of former generals and colonels and Pentagon people, but if you go in and and CNN never and MSNBC never do this, but if you go look at those guys, they’re all people who are working for Raytheon and General Dynamics and Boeing and Lockheed. So they’re generals, but they’re not identified that you know.You’re actually working for the military contractors?We’re cashing in on the war and and you know, those military contractors in turn are owned by three companies, all of them are owned by three companies by Black Rock.State Street and Vanguard and and you know the inflation that from printing the money to fund the war, to fund the 2016 trillion we spend to fund the lockdowns, the COVID lockdowns, 8 trillion we’ve spent on these wars since 2020. All of them losing wars.All of them have made our country less safe.Look at what this for is doing. We have push Russia.Into the embrace of China, which is the worst foreign policy outcome imaginable. It is not good for the national security of our country and.We’re now have have have Putin’s back to the wall well Putin.Is the world’s leading nuclear superpower. We aren’t. He’s got 1000 more nukes than we do, and their nukes are much better than ours.And they can shoot down our nukes. We can’t shoot down theirs.Oh, you know, we’re we are going up against it. You know, we are provoking.Hey, hey, I confrontation that could very easily lead.Turn nuclear war, you know, and I’ve I’ve talked to, but can I ask you a question for a second? Everything you’ve said is checkable and rational and you’re extrapolating out toward the future, which is easy to envision, like I don’t really see.I don’t understand how our policymakers aren’t reaching the same conclusions you just reached. Like they think that war with Russia’s war, we’re gonna win. We we cannot win as well. Of course. So what are they doing? I don’t. It was like Mexico beating us in a war. They’re not gonna let the Ukraine. They cannot lose this war. And you know anybody who thinks Russia is not.Up to the war.Go look at the Netflix documentary on Stalingrad and look at the sacrifice they were willing to, that Russians are willing to make. Putin today. You know we thought this was going to hurt him. He’s more popular than he’s ever been. All the things I was polling firms show him bowling at 90% popularity and and you know, in Russia, in Russia.The Russians are supporting him and.He also, you know, we were we were going to break him with the sanctions. We did the opposite, we made him more powerful.Is now insulated from the, you know, from the trade and the international banking system. He’s now got this great trade agreement with China. He’s now.You know, engineering the creation of of bricks which we which has 40 leading nations around the world turning against the US currency as a reserve currency.And adopting his petrol currency, of the Chinese currency, that is the worst threat to the United States that will play if we lose that status as the world’s reserve currency. You know, the Great Depression will look like a cakewalk. So I agree with all of that and and all of it. I mean, your position to my ears sounds moderate and obvious.I just don’t understand how the Secretary of State.How the President, how is it his competent advisors can’t have reached the same conclusions? Like what are they thinking? Well, you know, unfortunately, I think.And I don’t, you know, I share your, your sense of mystery about that.But I don’t know what you’re saying is not crazy. It’s like some far out theory. I mean the only way I can explain it and I’m not, you know, I don’t like to put looking other people’s heads and yes, and tell why they’re doing one thing or another.But President Biden has always been a very pro war president. And you know, he was the one senator that stood out supporting the Iraq War, my uncle and Obama and and and you know, Hillary also. But Biden has always been a reliable.You know, gung ho, let’s go to war Guy. And so I don’t think to the extent that he’s thought this all through, I just, I think it it follows, it’s consistent with his historical instincts.And then he surrounded by people who are you know, these are the same people who got us in the Iraq war. I know look at what happened. Let let’s just let me go through what happened in Iraq just for me and give me one minute to summarize the you know.We were tricked into Iraq by the neocons.Who told us that Saddam had had something to do with the World Trade Center, which was a lie, that he had planted the anthrax attacks that can’t Five days after the World Trade Center, which was alive, that turned out to be, you know, the intelligence agencies of the US military at Fort Detrick. That anthrax the FBI found came from Fort Detrick.Oh, somebody in the US government who sent it to?Magically hand Tom Daschle. Who are the two senators?And the week after 911 who are trying to block the Patriot Act and it shut down Congress and the Patriot Act went through and.Oh, so and then they told us Wait, wait, really? Yeah.Yes, and that FBI after a year of investigation.Praise the anthrax. It was a kind of aims anthrax that was weaponized and the only source of that in the world could be the US government. And they traced it to Fort Dietrich and nearby lab there. Yes, the bio lab in Fort Dietrich. The CIA bio lab in Fort Dietrich.Oh, somebody sent that in. At the time, the Patriot Act was being debated, and the two leading guys who were blocking it was Patrick Lee and Tom Daschle with the recipients of it.Yes, shut down Congress. The Patriot Act goes through. And what is the Patriot Act do?Two things. I mean it it it basically gets rid of a lot of large part of the United States Constitution Bill of Rights.And allows spying by intelligence agencies on the American people and.It reopens the bio weapons arms race because bioweapons were shut down in 1969 by we we saw, you know, Nixon did this incredible thing of closing for Tetrix, shutting them down and saying we’re no longer making bioweapons and then got everybody to sign a treaty.In 73 well.To antibiotics, the Patriot Act has a provision in it that says we’re not walking away from the Geneva Convention.Which makes you is I hanging offense developed bioweapons?We’re not walking away from.I’m from the Bioweapons charter of 1970 two 1973.But we are adopting a new rule that any federal official who violates those acts cannot be prosecuted.So it reopened it effectively. I really cry without a punishment, yeah, but anyway.I’m.You know, anyway, I forgot where we. So let me add it’s an interesting segue cause.Toria Newland kind of blithely announced during congressional testimony last year that, oh, by the way, we have these bio labs in Ukraine. Yeah.And that was like kind of ignored and the people who covered it got attacked for covering it. But the fact remains there US Biolabs in Ukraine, why would we have Biolabs in Ukraine? We have labs and reclaim because we’re developing bioweapons and.You know, and those bioweapons are using all kinds of new synthetic biology and CRISPR technology and genetic engineering techniques that were not available to previous generation. And they could make frightening, frightening stuff. What happened was.And uh.You know when when we walked away.From when the Patriarch reopened, the biopsies are parades. In 2001, the Pentagon began putting a lot of money into bioweapons, but they were nervous at that time.Because if you violate Geneva, the Geneva Convention, it’s hanging offense. And they weren’t sure that that.Provision in the Patriot Act would actually hold up as a loophole to treaties that had been ratified by Congress.But they were nervous about actually going full force, the bioweapons development. So they transferred the authority for bio security to one agency in the in the HS are called the National Institute for Infectious and Allergic Diseases, run by Anthony Fauci.No heavy voucher. Got all their responsibility for my weapons development. He got it that time. A 68% raise from the Pentagon.In order to do that work.So and that’s why he was the highest paid official in American. In the American government of you know, 44 million people in the American he’s the eye. He gets more money. He got more money, $450,000 a year than the present any Supreme Court judge, any member of Congress he was the highest paid and it’s because he.That 68% raised from the panic undue bioweapons.Environment. Now when you do bioweapons development, every bioweapon.He needs a vaccine. So your development side by side because.In 100% of the cases when you deploy A bioweapon, there’s blowback. Your side also gets sick. So in order to deploy one offensively, you need a vaccine do to counter it. So you need vaccinate your team before you deploy it.So those two things are are developed through it. I have a field of science called cannot function science, where you take infections, where you take an infectious microbe.And you amplify its infectivity or you make a jump species so it may kill monkeys. Now you make a killing humans.And you adopt it that way, and there’s all kinds of methods, right? And then you make it immune.Do antibiotics into therapeutic drugs and other therapies. So it’s actually the inverse of medicine.There are 2800 years since Hippocrates.Doctors have been trying to figure out how to make microbes less infectious and less deadly, and developed antibiotics and therapeutics to do that. Well, these guys were involved in this. There’s 36,000.What are called life scientists? But they’re actually dead scientists.Who are now employed full time and developing, you know, microbes that will can be used to kill people. But given the experience we just had three years ago, yeah, we’re a virus from a bio lab upturned.So, so let me just finish this brief history about what happened.In nine 2014, three of those micros escaped. You know, I’m out. You don’t lapse all over the country in Galveston and Boston. Everywhere there be as helpful or labs.We don’t even know how many there are BSL three and BSL four, but we have no idea how many there are. And there’s, you know, we’ve counted. And I have a new book coming out that goes through the ones we know, but there are many secret ones that people don’t know about, and they’re doing it here in the United States. But in 2014, three bugs escape from three different labs.And they were high profile breaks and they were very dangerous and they was all boxing and a couple of other bad, bad, bad microbes.The public learned about it and there was a lot of publicity and Congress held hearings.300 scientists, wrote President Obama.And so you’ve got to shut down Anthony Fauci because he’s going to create a microbe that will, that will cause a global pandemic.And so Obama signed a moratorium that shut down they 18. Worst of Anthony Fauci’s experiments were most of them were taking place in Galveston and in North Carolina.By a scientist called Ralph Barrick down there and I and instead of obeying that law.Anthony Fauci shift that a lot of his operations offshore and those operations ended up, most of them in the Wuhan lab, which is a military lab.And that the Chinese run the People’s Liberation Army.And and then a lot of them went to the Ukraine. So a lot of that science now and it’s funded not, you know, Fouchy was funding.Lots of it. But then the the other government agencies began to get confidence in, you know, their ability to get away with it.And most of it is being funded by the Department of Defense. The most of all, the biggest single funder is USAID, which is, you know, as CIA cut out.Do you think the lab leak was leak or was it an intentional. Well I the best science shows that he indicates that the people who are working on.A particular coronavirus technology that was taught by Ralph Barrick funded it was developed by the US government by Anna with NIH money.It was then taught to a group of scientists.She Shanghai who’s famous for that Lady and and her assistant Ben who.And a couple of other scientists at the Wuhan lab. Eric taught them two things. He taught them one, how to engineer the spike with a Fern cleave that could attach the Acer receptors of the human lungs and make people sick and spread, you know, through the air.He taught them another trip that has nothing to do with public health, he conceivably which is a technique called seamless legation, which is a technique for disguising the evidence of human tampering. So you can make the microbe and then you can erase.The evidence that human beings actually made that microbe and on and and Ben, who was leading that research?Then who then got sick with two other of his fellow researchers and they?I ended up in the hospital with COVID symptoms in November of 2019.Oh, I it it appears.That banner and that banner who the the subway line that goes has the Wahan lab and goes straight to the airport.All the original cases were along that supply line and so the intelligence, the intelligence agencies.That are actually being honest about that and most of them are not.Believe that if Ben Who and two other researchers got sick in the that the most likely scenario is that Ben who.And two other researchers working, we’re working on infectious coronavirus bioweapons, God’s sick and God with. And they didn’t know it. And so they were all riding that subway line every day and infecting people before they actually got symptoms. And that’s probably what happened. But when nobody knows you’ve said.The number of times publicly, many times publicly. And I think it’s now been confirmed that CIA had knowledge of at at bast, had knowledge of your uncles, assassination, new things. It’s still being hidden now. What do you think? And that’s obviously true. What do you think the motive was in that killing? Well, I think the people.Who were involved in it?The specific people who were involved in it were on were almost all associated with the Miami station, which was the largest.Zia station at that time and was basically it was the Cuban station.And the people who were involved in that station where people like Bill Harvey and David Atlee Phillips who?Was clearly involved in my uncles. That’s a nation, he was.I all evidence he was Lee Harvey Oswald handler at the CIA.And and then he Howard Hunt, who made a confession. David Morales who is the.And other chief hitman. He ran the Operation Phoenix program in Vietnam. He killed 10,000 people, civilians over there, murdered them.And he he also gave a confession of being in Dallas. And then there were most of the people were.Associated with Cuba and the you know, the and and the impetus.Came from that group of people who were.Who were angry at my uncle for not sending an air covered during the Bay of Pigs invasion, and then even more so after the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.My uncle then developed this friendship with Khrushchev and he shut down all of the Cuban attacks by A66 and these other groups that were harassing you, but they were sinking ships, are sinking Russian ships.They were operating flotillas out of South Florida and and doing raids on and my uncle and father sent the Coast Guard down to confiscate their boats and their weaponry and to arrest the ones that continue to do it and those people, those individuals.We’re also at, you know, I’ve been traced and tracked the assassination and, you know, over the years. They’re now.There’s been, you know, there’s millions of documents. I mean, I, you know, why not release all the what doesn’t make sense to me is why not just admit it now. I mean, no, no one you describe would be is still alive. There’s no everybody everybody now, all virtual. So why wouldn’t Biden declassify these documents.You know why? And why would Trump not try? Agree? I totally why I know why Trump wouldn’t Because he was convinced by Mike Pompeo not to.So and it’s not an excuse but not you know we don’t we don’t know what what what what my partner said to him that no but that’s the point what what we think possibly or requires them to do it so they they they.JFK assassinations law required that all documents be released by 2017. Yeah, and and yet they refused. So they But it suggests there’s about 4000 of them.I’m better laughed. And you you have to assume. And again, I don’t try. I try not to talk about things that I cannot document, right.Umm, but I I think there’s a it’s a fair assumption that they’re not protecting individuals, that they’re protecting some institutional interest.Oh.What’s the most powerful institution in America? Why, You know, I again, I’m not gonna. I’m not going to. I I I don’t know. I don’t know. And I and you know I you know, yeah, it’s but it’s it. There must be something because like, why wouldn’t they just yeah. Either way.For people you know, you, you and I having this conversation about who did the assassination, why they did it, a lot of that is.The stuff that I’ve told you and I’ve tried to stick the things that you know that our documentable.And the names that are, etcetera, but for people who want.Really. You know, kind of a panoramic view of what happened. I think the best book that’s been written about this.Is Jim Douglass ‘s book, which is called The Unspeakable because he’s done something and, you know, after the Warren Commission.That became the orthodoxy and the New York Times and all the major news organizations.Uh.Have enforced that orthodoxy, and anybody who challenged that orthodoxy becomes a conspiracy theorist. And in fact, in 1967, the CIA sent a letter out to an EA telecom out to all of its Operation Mockingbird people, which are all the the assets it had in the American.Passport 400 People editor, senior editor, senior writers in American press saying.From now on, anybody who questions the single gunman theory of the of the Kennedy assassination because should be characterized as a conspiracy theorist. So they didn’t coin the word conspiracy there, but they popularized it with that memo. They send them out to all their stations.Saying that talk should be discouraged, So on those.You know what happened after that is then.In 1979, the House Assassinations Committee met for a year and a half.And they looked much more evidence than the Warren Commission and including, you know, Alan Dollar, Alan Dulles and run the Warren Commission. He was the head of the CIA. My uncle fired.When my uncle died, he said. I’m glad the little **** is daddy. He thought he was a God.As what he said to him, the young reporter, and then he becomes the head of the Commission.That is, you know it. It shouldn’t have been called the Warren Commission. It should be called the dollar, cause her Warren was at a full time job in the Supreme Court.The helmet and the all the other guys on the Warren Commission had full time jobs. The senator and congressman.The only guy who went to every meeting and, you know, looked at every piece of evidence and developed the questions for the witnesses was Allen Dulles. He was running the entire Warren Commission.And you should have been the prime suspect in the in the crime and he was communicating secretly.With the people of this A, with David Atlee Phillips, with George Jonides, who was the CIA liaison, telling them what you know, what questions we’re going to be asked and what they should reveal and which they had over at the same time.Of all saying was a coordinated kind of kabuki theater. But then Congress goes back and investigates it in 79 and Congress then comes back after a year and a half seeing a lot more stuff and says I am they conclude this was a conspiracy, so they make that.Fish oil, you know, so anybody who says which gently army Oswald is is differing from the people who actually made the investigation. So yeah, most of the people on that staff who I’ve talked to.Believe that it was the CIA. And as you know, at that time, the death in dispute between them was between what was the mob and the CIA because there was a lot of mob involvement.Don’t know Johnny Roselli, Sam Giancana’s Who was the Chicago boss, Sam Trafficante was the Tampa bars. And Carlos Marcello who was?Right.New Orleans police were all involved, and they all had casinos in Havana.And they were working with the CIA to assassinate Castro. So they had hit man at their disposal, and they were training Cubans who were sharp shooters from Batista.As human and I’ve talked to some of the Hitman. I’ve talked to Antonio Veneziano, who was involved and who was also David Atlee Phillips.I’m handling had David Alley. Phillips was his handler and he was Lee Harvey Oswald handler. So eventually on him that Oswald.In Dallas and I think in.September of 1963. Oh, I’ve talked to, you know, the people who are actually working for the CIA and the mob at that time, you know, to kill Castro and how they were then pivoted to this. You know, some of them were pivoted to this new project.If you became president. If you become president.What do you do about those 4 million federal employees, about the agencies which are running effectively as autonomous governments within our government? How do you, the last president, when was the last president who controlled the agency?And how would you do it? I don’t know. I I feel like I’m probably and I don’t want to seem like you know I’m being vain, but I feel but because of that.The confluence of my experience over the past four years that I’ve actually.Probably the only one that can unravel that agency capture and and let me tell you this, my daughter-in-law who is Co running my campaign with Dennis Kucinich.Amaryllis Fox was a CIA agent in the clandestine service from Oxford Career.And what she’ll tell you and you know, she has a very sanguine view of the CIA and the same as mine and also understands all this evidence that the agency, you know, was involved in that in that murder of my uncle. And and the cover up continues to be involved in the cover up.I wouldn’t. Rose will tell you is that.Of the 24,000 people.Who worked the agency that 20,000 of them. Our patriotic Americans and good public servants.And that there’s there’s some people mainly in gland in a plants.He has been activation. This CIA, as you know, is made-up of extraordinary people, principally who are on, who are doing an important job of protecting our country. The espionage division is the vision.That does that does information gathering and analysis and the president needs that the plans vision is the action division and they are the ones that assassinate people, fix elections, you know overthrow governments and do all the.And the things that I think were paying for in our foreign policies and in our domestic policy.My father was going to separate those divisions. My uncle ultimately was going to do that to my uncle, thought the CIA. You know, he came out of his office during the Bay of Pigs and he said, I want to take the CIA.Shatter it into 1000 pieces and scatter it to the winds.He then asked my father to run the agency. He said either you’re the only one. I tried to do this and my father said it and my grandfather said you can’t do that, you can’t it. It would be like Molotov install and you can’t have the have the brother of the president.Writing a secret spy agency with all this? Extraordinarily the hidden power.But they brought in John McComb to run it. But John McComb, you know, was not able to handle it. And and my father’s, a week before he died, taught, told one of his closest friends, Peter Hammill, who you may have known that he handled the journalist. Yeah, the journalist.He told me to him I’ll beat, Hamill said. What are you gonna do about the CIA? And my father said I’m gonna separate the plants, the vision from espionage, and that’s the only way to make it work. And that’s still makes a lot of sense today. Incidentally, I had dinner with Mike Pompeo.I don’t know, three weeks ago and he said something really interesting to me, which you had dinner with Mike Pompeo.Aguas.And he said something. What was that like? It was it was it was the weirdest dinner I’ve ever been to. If I told you the other people were at that dinner will cause I just can’t imagine two by no Mike Puppy. I’m not attacking my Pompeo but I can’t imagine you know I’ve always more different views. No, I’ve always.You know my my.I have a kind of natural hostility toward my Bombay, but I never knew him.And but you know, just because of what he was from people who don’t, you know, he was CIA director and and he was Secretary of State under Trump.And umm.But he’s a, he’s an interesting guy, smart, very smart. He’s a Harvard. I think he went to Harvard Law School. He did Harvard undergrad and then I think he had a military Army officer. Yep. And he, you know, he’s he’s by all.On paper, he’s kind of a Great American. By all means on, you know, his CV is extraordinary.Oh, and you never know. You know, you make judgments about people before you meet them. And my judgment about them, I still don’t know what to think of them. But I but this what he said wound up at dinner. I’m sorry. Bobby Kennedy. Mike Pompeo in Vegas at dinner. If I’d stumbled across that, I would have stopped. It wasn’t just the two of us. It wasn’t he.The rest of the group makes a story even weirder. Is on I’m on. I’m. I’m not even gonna. I don’t know if I’ll even go there, but.But he said to me before dinner, You know, I was. I had a moment.And he said to me, he said, you know, when I was at the CIA, I did not do what I should have done to fix that agency. And he said.Umm, you know I and he was expressing regret and he said.And then he turned to me and like, look me dead in the eye. And he said the entire upper echelon of that agency.Is made-up of individuals who do not believe in the democratic institutions of the United States of America. That’s a quote. And but so it was Mike Pompeo who convinced Trump not to release.The file, and it was a guy who worked for Mike Pompeo, texted me the day after I revealed that those files showed CIA complicity in your uncle’s death. Which they do, because I talked to someone who read them and I said that on Fox News, and I got a text from a guy who works from Mike Pompeo informing me that I had just broken federal law and that anyone who would.Told me that was a felon.Because we have revealed classified information, And I said, wait a second, that classified information suggests the US government was involved in the murder of an American president.Yeah, that that’s Mike Pompeo’s position on that. Yeah. So it’s a little bit weird for him to say. I think there’s a billion documents classified. Yeah, I know. Top secret. So you know they can call it. They can stamp that stamp on anything they want to. That’s all lawyers trick you know to put. And he was also behind keeping a convincing Trump not to pardon Assange.Yeah, well, you know, that confirms my earlier assessment of of Mike Pompeo. That’s interesting. You like him? No, it says OK, so you have.Umm.There’s a documentary called Midnight at the Border about your visit to the border, California, Arizona border of Mexico.And I just want to play a clip from it for our people haven’t seen it.I didn’t double from Senegal to Nicaragua after Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico and here.I’m going to New York to join my uncle. My name is to leave the.America live in America who work, and to help my family we coordinate with the airport in Phoenix and out they go to the final destination the same day.Here I hope to begin a new life.Yeah, my brother lives here.Uh, he’s a citizen?Very good luck. Goodbye. Was speaking during the money or how they sponsor the buys their ticket. What happens if in a different family doesn’t have the money to buy the plane ticket Oh well. FEMA reimburses says well can we can buy that ticket in and you buy the tickets for yeah.What did you learn from that?OK. You know, what I saw was so extraordinary.That it took me 3 days to even understand what I was looking at on because of the first night I I land, I go to Yuma.And I get to the wall at at 2:00 AM and I watch.The first group, there’s a gap in the wall there and there, and I watched the first group come across, which was about a hundred 110.Men from West Africa, mainly from Ghana, they’re all, you know, sort of military age men from Ghana.And by calling the military age men, I’m not making implicate any implications about what they’re here for. I’m just saying.It’s just a way of describing them. They were people, you know, between 18 and 25.I’m gonna so I expected to see a lot of Central Americans coming up, you know, and then and that was not what I saw. And then the next group was a I get about the same number. There were two busloads.Ask people, and I interviewed everyone of them. I talked to each one and I want to say this, what we’re seeing there.A lot of people come from the to this issue of, you know, I I think we need to close that while we need to close the border right now and I’m going to explain to you why.And a lot of people come to this issue from sort of nationalistic or I think even a racist or or, you know, xenophobic. But I’m not coming from that place. I’m coming from a place of compassion.And a plate some of you know just concerned for our country and.But.And you know, this is a, this is, this is a heartbreaking.Humanitarian crisis and everything that happens, these migrants along the way is terrible. Oh, the next group that came in and what was happening to our country is a catastrophe.And by the way, I was a person who ridiculed Trump’s wall. OK, so and now I’ve been down there and I’ve talked to everybody down there, and I’m, you know, I have a different position. I don’t think you need to build.A 2200 mile physical barrier from, you know San Diego to back Brownsville, TX. But we definitely need physical barriers and that’s the populated area would definitely because this we cannot survive. It was what’s happening there now, the next group that came over.Were again about 110 people there, two bus loads. The cartels dropped them on right on the other side of the wall on these buses, and there’s 55 people per bus.Oh.The next group there were people from Azerbaijan and from Kazakhstan, from Uzbekistan, from Afghanistan, from Pakistan.Are from Tibet, Nepal.And many from India and the most came from Jupiter.There were only two families we met the entire night who were from.Who were from a Latin America None from Central America. Interesting one from Colombia, one from Peru. And they were the only ones.Who had legitimate claims that you know, of asylum claims? Everybody else we talked to said I’m here to have a better life. Well, that is not if you want, if that’s why you come to America.Then you have to go through the front door and go to the embassy. Yeah, you gotta go to the embassy. But they don’t even have a legitimate, any legitimate claim to be in the United States nevertheless.The the Border Patrol and the Border Patrol is so disillusioned and discouraged. Is nine of the Border Patrol man we were told had committed suicide in the last year because of what they’re being forced to do.They’re not protecting the border, they what they do.Is there fingerprint? They can only hold the the migrants for 72 hours.They fingerprint them and they see if they’re if they have a criminal record, they have a criminal record, they’re put in a different process.But otherwise they’re then asked where they want to go.and if they don’t have a plane ticket they are brought to the airport. The DHS purchased them a ticket and sends them anywhere they want to go in the United. So the country is getting poorer every year. Our country is getting poorer every year. We’re in a poor place right now. Well, how, who came up with? I mean, why do we have plane tickets, people who come here illegally? It’s as far as I can tell.And there’s a lot of evidence for this, and it’s in our film. Is that the Biden administration?Came in, you know.In the same position I was which which is which is the wall is bad, but more important, more importantly.Anything, Donald, Any idea that Donald Trump rad is a bad idea?Oh, the age is over the quarter and they’ve had this open border policy where they they have not hired the judges. That’s the most important thing that needs to be.Tired so that these cases, asylum cases are cases can be adjudicated right at the border and people who are not entitled to asylum or sent back.But that’s not what’s happening. What happens is they’re all given claims and they’re told to appear in court, and they go to an arraignment fairly soon after arriving in Boston or New York or Miami or wherever many Minneapolis, wherever they’re going. And then they’re given a court date, which on average is 7 years out.So they’re there, and they’re very. I hope next time I get arrested I get the same courtesy. Oh, they’re in our country then, for seven years, but.And let me just tell you from their point of view, what’s happened. First of all, the cartels are now controlling our immigration policy in the United States. All of these people who came across came across knowing exactly what was going to happen to them because they had seen it on advertisements. The cartels are sitting around the world on TikTok.And on YouTube it tells you what you need to do to get in where you, what airport you fly into, what visas you get out to get them, and how to get to the cartel parking lots where the buses will take you.Some of them flying to Nicaragua, most of them fly to.Directly at Mexico City and from anywhere in the world. These are not, you know, Central American, Latin American. They’re coming from everywhere.They come to me, they fly to Mexico City, the cartels system getting a Mexican visa.And then they were put on a domestic flight to Mexicali. And Mexicali there’s a big parking lot with with buses operated by the cartels.The cartels charged them between 10,000 and $15,000 apiece to get through, and then they drive them up to the wall and they unload, and we watch them unload them on the other side.They.Large numbers of them get get abused, they get extorted, they get exploited, they get robbed, raped, beaten. They Peruvian family that I met.And every penny taken from And he said my whole life savings was taken from me. There’s a tree that we could see from where we were. And the dead when it was daylight. It’s called the rape tree, where the cartels extract the final payment from women who are crossing the border if there are attractive.The men that they in their view.And I don’t mean physically attractive, attractive for whatever their purpose is to sell or to, you know, to traffic or whatever, or children.And those children are separated out we.The Colombian family had lost a job girl and a teenage girl.And you know, the father was desperate and they they, she had been separated from them by the cartels before they passed. And 85,000 children have disappeared in this process. It it it’s, it’s monstrous. So all the IT might, let me tell you this.And get into our country and there’s a lot of people who are well meaning.Mainly liberal people who care who, you know, see themselves as deeply caring. People who say we should have sanctuary cities and we should, you know, these people should be treated with dignity. But what really happens to them in real life is that they get here and then they version for seven years.None of them are illegal, so they are now subject to terrible exploitation by unscrupulous employers all over this country.They’re getting paid $6 or $5 an hour because they have no leverage in their employer course and that damage the wages where every other men are exactly right. It steals the leverage from American workers too. And there are 16 million of them here now and.They’re rushing the social safety systems. Total social safety Nets in cities like New York has 95,000 of that landed in New York.New York is now thinking of turning Roosevelt Island into an open air refugee camp, and there’s a proposal that was on Bloomberg of turning Central Park, or parts of it, into open air camps were.For migrants.No. And you know, Eric Adams, who’s the mayor, has been saying this has got to end. We, you know, we have to close the border.Oh, I’d these mayors who were people who were saying we, you know, we’re sanctuary cities and getting that, you know, you know.Aligning themselves with that.Are now seeing what the IT really means and it does not mean humanity treating people humanely. It is the worst possible thing we can meanwhile.7 million of Comical Cross in three years, 7 million illegally. In that same time, there’s only been 3.1 million million legal immigrants. So these are the people who waited in line.For every one of them, there are more than two illegal ones coming across and taking those places and that.You know a lot of the anyway that you know it’s not, it’s not something that’s sustainable. It’s something that needs to end right away and that if the other cartels which you’re making believe the cartels, the Mexican drug cartels.Are literally running US immigration policy this I’m not the president of the United States and corrupting the southwestern states. Last question, Will you succeed in getting a debate with Biden, do you think?I don’t. I don’t. I don’t know. I mean, I think it’s not very democratic, not dissipate.I hope that he will debate me and I I can tell you this and I also hope that he’ll come out and campaign.Because I’m seeing a vision of America in that, you know, both Trump and.Listeners are boasting about the.About the economic prosperity that they’ve brought to our country and they’re it’s unusual if two former presidents running against each other.Both of them are are proclaiming their their umm.There are economic record now. I’m seeing things in this country that I never believed that I would see in the United States. Every had people living with in a level of desperation.Then I you know, and I I don’t know. I I’m talking about I have a friend.Calls Jesus Motto who is empty. You know, I represented commercial fishermen for almost all my career as an environmental lawyer.And he’s one of my closest friends. And he he’s been, he ran. He worked hard his whole life fishing out of Wellfleet and Peed Down and and Chatham.And but, and it’s his son-in-law now owns fishing business, but he has no pension and he has no and he’s on full disability.You know, a lot of injuries, a lot of damage during his life. So he was collecting food stamps, $283. He was getting a month and it’s critical to his survival.Even then he was saying he was telling me, you know, I have to switch recipes.To make to be able to get through the through the checkout line. You know I have to buy cheaper recipes and get etcetera and in the last two years the price of food because to fund these wars that were you know were funding they print money and that means inflation and that’s the taxing the poor oh.The price of food has gone up by 38% the price of basic food stuffs.Chicken, eggs and milk have gone up 78%. So here’s food stamps. We’re 78%, you know, less valuable. On March 1st of this year, he got a phone call.From the A government phone call, robocall.The recorded voice, voice, voice told him that he was getting his food stamps cut to $23 a month, so 90%.30 million Americans got that phone call. And you know, that’s the same month we ratcheted, ratcheted up our contributions to the Ukraine, had had to Ukraine at 30, at 113 billion.And we preferred printed 300 billion unanticipated dollars to pay for the failure of the Silicon Valley Bank.There is lots of money for for and we and we began cutting.15 million people from the rabbit welfare rolls. Since then, 4 million have been caught This on Politico this morning from from the Medicare rolls.Oh, there’s no money for poor Americans and the people that I see are living because of the inflation, because of what’s happening that this with this desperation.The average wage in this country is now $5000 left.Less than the cost of of basic goods, of food, transportation and housing.So half of Americans are making up that gap by putting it on their credit card calls. And this week we passed.$1.1 trillion in credit card debt that the first time an answering most of that.What’s 330 million of that has been in the Biden Trump administration? Two men were saying I, you know, I’ve, I’m helping America.The trillion dollar credit card debt. And most people are paying 22 seven percent interest. If the Mafia did that, it would be called loan sharking, not dischargeable in bankruptcy by the right. And it can’t be discharged. Oh, you’re I’m meeting people who are, you know, couples who are sitting at their dining room tables.And trying to figure out how this math works for them, because they can’t. They’re they’re having to make choices, people in this country.Are choosing between food and gasoline and food and medicine.And they’re they’re listening to a a little baby crying in the room next door, young couples.And having have to wonder where that baby is, $50 sick or $100 cigar, 500 or $1500 sick before they bring them to Alice Miller and you know, my wife.And I were talking about the other night and we were talking about this epidemic of depression and mental illness anxiety that is afflicting Americans, that, you know, the deterioration, this sense the wheels are falling off. And she said, you know, that’s the way I felt when she was living in poverty. She said that’s the way I felt when the engine light came on my car because I knew.There was no money to pay it and you have all these Americans now who are living hand to mouth and and they do not feel.Had anybody in this, listening to them in the political process, they feel they’ve been completely abandoned by the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, and that those parties are now serving elites.And and that, you know, their voices aren’t being heard. And particularly now you know the Democratic Party has had this very interesting shift where when I grew up.My When my uncle was president, my father was in the Democratic Party, was where the people who were poor.And working people are ends today.70% of the wealth in this country is owned by the Democratic Party and only 30% of the Republican Party.The top 10 count counties list top richest counties in this country. 9 of the 10 are Democratic counties. Oh, there is this kind of shift in in in wealth that maybe is one of the reasons that Democrats do not seem to be.Talking to or for working people anymore. But I, you know, the people that I talked to both through my job of representing them, you know, in, you know, I’m representing.1000 Families in Columbiana County, Ohio, eastern Ohio, western Pennsylvania, western West Virginia.Whose lives were upended by the Norfolk Southern spill.And you know, they are just living in a level of desperation that I never thought I’d see in the United States and.You know, my father used to bring us to.2.Southeast Washington Lotus and UMM and and the station wagon and bring us the Southeast Washington to to meet people who were.Who were poor already takes the Mississippi Delta her West Virginia.Hunter Appalachia or the Indian reservations, and you’ve always said to us these these are your people.He said that the the people are wealthy and the people who have, you know, who are the big corporate leaders in Titans.They don’t need the categories they have. They have lawyers and they have PR firms, They have lobbyists.And he said these are European male and he came back from from the Mississippi D1 night and he said.To We were all eating. They’re like nine of our kids and the dining room at that time.and he said I was in a tar paper shack. There were two families there, and.They eat one meal a day and then the kids go to bed hungry. And they said when you really grow older.i’d like you to do something about those people and i’m you know that’s one of the reasons that i’m running robert F kennedy junior thank you very much for that thank

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