Posted on 08/25/2023 6:43:00 PM PDT by DoodleBob
In the wake of his comments about transgender people, rock singer Alice Cooper has lost a sponsorship deal with a cosmetics company. It is common knowledge that the 75-year-old, also known by his given name, Vincent Damon Furnier, is best known for his signature black eye makeup, flamboyant costumes, and horror-themed props such as fake blood and guillotines. There was a plan for him to collaborate with Vampyre Cosmetics on a makeup collection named after him, but the company dropped him due to comments he made in an interview with the music website Stereogum, which led to a fallout between the two parties.
"In light of recent statements by Alice Cooper we will no longer be doing a makeup collaboration. We stand with all members of the LGBTQIA+ community and believe everyone should have access to healthcare. All pre-order sales will be refunded," Vampyre Cosmetics posted on its official Instagram page. As part of the interview, per Rolling Stone, Cooper was asked to elaborate on his thoughts regarding gender and sexuality in light of the fact that he had made some fairly progressive statements about bisexuality and pansexuality in 1974. "I'm understanding that there are cases of transgender, but I'm afraid that it's also a fad, and I'm afraid there's a lot of people claiming to be this just because they want to be that," he said. "I find it wrong when you've got a six-year-old kid who has no idea. He just wants to play, and you're confusing him telling him, 'Yeah, you're a boy, but you could be a girl if you want to be.'"
View this post on Instagram A post shared by Vampyre Cosmetics (@vampyrecosmetics) Cooper expressed concern about unidentified factors exerting pressure on kids or adolescents, adding, "You're still trying to find your identity, and yet here's this going on, saying, 'Yeah, but you can be anything you want. You can be a cat if you want to be." He added later: "So I say let somebody at least become sexually aware of who they are before they start thinking about if they're a boy or a girl. A lot of times, I look at it this way, the logical way: If you have these genitals, you're a boy. If you have those genitals, you're a girl. There's a difference between 'I am a male who is a female, or I'm a female that's a male' and wanting to be a female. You were born a male. OK, so that's a fact. You have these things here. Now, the difference is you want to be a female. OK, that's something you can do later on if you want to. But you're not a male born a female." "I find it wrong when you've got a 6-year-old kid who has no idea. He just wants to play, and you're confusing him telling him, 'Yeah, you're a boy, but you could be a girl if you want to be,'" he said in the interview. "I mean, if you identify as a tree ... I'm going, 'Come on! What are we in, a Kurt Vonnegut novel?' It's so absurd, that it's gone now to the point of absurdity."
After Cooper's comments regarding trans kids and their parents, the interviewer pushed back on Cooper's statements, arguing that parents were trying to listen to their children and find doctors who would be able to provide them with appropriate care, not encouraging doubt in them. Unfortunately, Cooper's response about bathrooms was one of the classic talking points. "Well, I can see somebody really taking advantage of this, though," he said. "A guy can walk into a woman's bathroom at any time and just say, 'I just feel like I'm a woman today' and have the time of his life in there, and he's not in the least bit… He's just taking advantage of that situation. Well, that's going to happen. Somebody's going to get raped, and the guy's going to say, 'Well, I felt like a girl that day, and then I felt like a guy.' Where do you draw this line?"
While these myths about 'bathroom predators' have been comprehensively debunked, an increasing number of anti-trans bathroom laws are coming into effect, said to put transgender people at more risk of harm. The "School's Out" singer hasn't been the only rocker sharing anti-trans sentiments recently. It was reported in May that Kiss guitarist Paul Stanley called gender-affirming care a "sad and dangerous fad," making similar statements to Cooper's about children "playing" with gender instead of understanding their own identities. In response to Stanley's comments, Twisted Sister lead singer Dee Snider said, "there was a time where I 'felt pretty' too. Glad my parents didn't jump to any rash conclusions." Since then, both artists have retracted their comments.
Got Santana to say he’s sorry. At their age they should have nothing to apologize for.
While these myths about ‘bathroom predators’ have been comprehensively debunked,
Know what they mean by that and challenge them.
He’s 70+. I hope he doesn’t run out of money in his golden years.
I saw Alice in 2021 and 2022. Both times the venue was packed, with fans old and new. His band was tight and ripping. They were awesome shows.
That cosmetics firm will go bust before Alice.
Let us say the company instead said:
We believe that anyone who wants to should be able to wear makeup, we have no other comment.
do you think they would actually lose business ?
Vampyre Cosmetics is proudly women owned, disabled owned and LGBT+ owned. Our products are vegan, cruelty free and talc free.
We believe beauty is in everyone. We simply provide tools as an option for the expression of it.
We believe no one should have to choose between unique, inspired packaging and high quality, ethical cosmetics, so we are committed to being all in one.
We believe gender is a construct and has no place in our business. We refuse to gender our products because they are for everyone.
We want to help those who use our products to feel empowered enough to show up in their skin however they wish.
We also believe vegan, cruelty and talc free should be the baseline for cosmetics, not something to brag about.
“In light of recent statements by Alice Cooper we will no longer be doing a makeup collaboration. “
Well just damn.
Vampyre Cosmetics was the last makeup company in the world.
No, really.
The entire planet is SOL.
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They’d lose their super wokey cred if they didn’t drop Alice.
"It was Groucho who dubbed Alice’s horror-comedy concerts “vaudeville,” a classification Alice immediately knew was right.
“Groucho,” he says, “came to the show and said, ‘Oh, vaudeville.’ Before that everybody said ‘shock rock,’ and ‘theatrical rock’ and ‘glam rock.’ When Groucho said, ‘vaudeville,’ I said, ‘Wow, that’s exactly what it is.’”
...Groucho took his friends to Coop’s concert, from George Burns to Jack Benny and Mae West.
Those Hollywood comedians got Alice made into a Friar. He’d go to their roasts.
“It was a bizarre time in my life,” he says. “Here I was the weirdest freak in Hollywood. I was this Alice Cooper monster. Every parent hated me. And all the comedians said, ‘He’s a friar, he’s one of us.’"
Just as well. The makeup does nothing for his Christian testimony.
In that case, I am fine with what they did since they are lgbt and they dont want a spokesperson who does not share their values.
I am not sure why this was news.
This reason this is news, is in the last paragraph.
The left is 2 for 2 in getting rockers to retract their pro-parental rights comments. They think they can get Alice.
They chose poorly.
Alice is worth close to a 100 million dollars I doubt being in his 70s he really even cares.
The joke was on them. They should’ve known that anyone who played golf regularly with Glen Campbell wasn’t going to be pro-trans.
As did Alice Cooper and Glenn Campbell.
“As did Alice Cooper and Glenn Campbell.”
They were good friends.
I am Anti-Trans in general and becoming more so each day. What each individual wants to do with their life is their choice, their business. I refuse to be put in to a position where I have to approve of their life choices. I absolutely disapprove of forcing young children to be in an environment whereby a very small percentage of the population, can influence a young child’s decision to make lifelong biological changes without the benefit of the child’s parents input.
A co-worker went a couple years ago. Paid a couple hundred $ for him and wife to get a backstage meet and greet. Yea, I don’t think Alice will miss that endorsement.
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