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1 posted on 08/30/2023 5:14:39 PM PDT by ransomnote
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Police forbid access to the fire locations and tell people outside the restricted zone not to take pictures (from roadside - facing into the zone).

Eff the pigs.

2 posted on 08/30/2023 5:16:56 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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A car burned. Got it.


3 posted on 08/30/2023 5:17:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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So the point if all that is.......what?


4 posted on 08/30/2023 5:19:03 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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Would love to hear from a fireman if they ever saw this before. Puddles of metal?


7 posted on 08/30/2023 5:26:38 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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Looks like other car fires I’ve responded to put out.

All of the plastic burns real good. Aluminum wheels and magnesium stuff you let burn.


8 posted on 08/30/2023 5:26:56 PM PDT by meatloaf
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This is conspiracy theory nonsense. Dry, hot, extremely windy. Sparks carry a long way. Dry grass burns easily. I’ve talked to people and woodland firefighters that tell me trees that have no fire near them will simply explode from the high heat nearby.


10 posted on 08/30/2023 5:27:25 PM PDT by vpintheak (There is no Trans. There is only mentally ill)
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Insurance fraud?


12 posted on 08/30/2023 5:29:37 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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This talk about a “directed energy weapon” is silly - does anyone even know what a DEW is? How it works? Have they ever seen one? Or seen one in action?


13 posted on 08/30/2023 5:32:11 PM PDT by PGR88
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thats not the shoulder of the road dude... thats more like 50 to 74 feet off the road ell into a burned area. are you saying this car was planted there after the fire?? Well they did a good job spreading the ashes underneath it!!


14 posted on 08/30/2023 5:33:26 PM PDT by sit-rep
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Maybe HI will stop voting for Dems now?


21 posted on 08/30/2023 5:47:35 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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I have seen a lot of cars that were set on fire, deliberately. That is what they look like. Lots of flammable stuff inside a car.


22 posted on 08/30/2023 5:51:13 PM PDT by marktwain
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interesting at least.

I tend to discount the usage of some kind of d.e.w.

probably I may heard of them in passing in the aftermath of 9/11 but I really don’t recall, certainly it was not in the thick congressional investigation which I read.

toady I had to look up what d e w meant.

in any case, I know about rockets, and I know something about spacecraft and satellites .

We do not have space based weapons like this because of the power requirements (or if we do we would not use them on hawaii cause they would be insanely expensive and probably one time use)

Power, do you know how much power it would take to do something like this ?

I built lasers in the 70s C02 lasers were cool as were Argon ones.

could they do massive damage ? No

I think we may have Directed Energy Weapons, but realistically they would have to be ground based.

if they were space based I could hypothesize about power sources, but short of an antimatter or nuclear power source I am not sure how you get it.

Certainly it would be far cheaper to use a bic

On the other hand if I were designing some system like this I might launch satilites with a large mirror array.

if one of the elements did not move properly you could have some out of target hot spots.

Still think it is very unlikely


25 posted on 08/30/2023 5:54:09 PM PDT by algore
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They don’t build ‘em like they used to.


27 posted on 08/30/2023 6:00:11 PM PDT by fruser1
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From other images I saw, I believe this was a directed energy weapon attack on these people. Most likely by the American government itself.


29 posted on 08/30/2023 6:05:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Tire fires are hot. Once something ignited the tires (plastic bumper running into flying embers?), the melted Aluminum & Magnesium alloys in the wheels and engine is not surprising.

Am experiment with some industrial tires has a chart showing them reaching a high temperature around 1100 C very quickly (over 2000 F), and staying there for 20-30 minutes, slowly dropping as it burns itself out over an hour or two.


35 posted on 08/30/2023 6:16:19 PM PDT by Tellurian (To the Dems, the middle class is a festering wound. They want it amputated.)
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Go search some photos from other fires. The Tubbs fire maybe in Cali.

Lots of photos of melted aluminum on the ground.

I suppose when the chemicals such as oil and gas ignite it gets hot enough.

Not everything is a conspiracy.


38 posted on 08/30/2023 6:19:52 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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It looks like an insurance scam for an older abandoned vehicle. The guy in the interview talked at 50 mph. He sounded like he was on something.


41 posted on 08/30/2023 6:29:46 PM PDT by Garden Island
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This is a better video and documents the odd burn pattern I’ve commented about since the day after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mppuqs7YF0


53 posted on 08/30/2023 7:15:39 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Is glass really a liquid? How can this be?
55 posted on 08/30/2023 7:17:52 PM PDT by the_daug ( )
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The wind was blowing and there is enough fuel to have caused the damage and add to it the aluminum was possibly an alloy with magnesium the fire would really get going hot.

The car companies used Magnesium to reduce weight for better gas millage.


64 posted on 08/30/2023 7:40:32 PM PDT by the_daug ( )
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