“ The video, which was originally posted to TikTok, initially shows a short clip of what appears to be molten metal (identified as aluminium in the voiceover) spilling out from a burnt-out car in Maui.
It then cuts to a speaker, who claims that the aluminium in the wheels “needs a minimum of 660 Celsius for it to melt” and that there is “not a fire that could create that kind of heat”.
This is not true. The average temperature of a forest fire specifically is around 800°C with extremes of up to 1,200°C—far higher than the melting point of pure aluminium (approximately 660°C).
Furthermore, the metal part of the wheel is often made of aluminium alloy, meaning the aluminium is mixed with other metals (though they can also be made of steel or pure aluminium). This can reduce the melting point, though the melting point of steel is much higher than aluminium.”
I’ve seen the video. I think the point the reporter was trying to make is this. Why is there vegetation, in range of the videographer, that isn’t burned? I get the tree point, I’ve seen two and actually driven through one forest fire in my lifetime.
Something smells with the state rescinding eminent domain regulations in the recent past as well as the governor endorsing theb15 minute city theory.
Or it may have been a wind induced natural disaster.
Whatever it was I still don’t trust our government anymore. Heck, they care more about Ukraine than their own citizens.
The following excerpt is from NDU website. Wiki says of NDU:
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https://ndupress.ndu.edu/Portals/68/Documents/prism/prism_8-3/prism_8-3_Obering_36-46.pdf
PRISM 8, NO. 3 FEATURE S | 37
Directed Energy Weapons
Are Real . . . And Disruptive
By Henry “Trey” Obering, IIIDE weapons include high-energy lasers, high-power radio frequency or microwave devices, and charged or neutral particle beam weapons.
Microwaves and lasers are both part of the electromagnetic spectrum, which includes light energy and radio waves. The distinction between them is the wavelength/frequency of the energy. While they are both part of the electromagnetic spectrum, laser and microwave weapons operate very differently and have very different effects.
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Lasers can be categorized as gas, solid state, or a hybrid of the two. The lasers on the current path to weaponization include solid state combined fiber and crystal slab as well as hybrid lasers. Fiber lasers are lasers in which the active medium being used is an optical fiber that has been doped in rare elements, most often Erbium. Slab lasers represent one class of high-power solid-state lasers in which the laser crystal has the form of a slab.
Hybrid lasers such as a diode pumped alkali laser use a combina- tion of trace gas with semiconductor diode arrays for even higher power and efficiency. The destructive power of directed energy weap- ons (their lethality) derives from the amount of energy transferred to the target over time. This concentrated energy can have effects across the entire spectrum from non-lethal to lethal. For example, lasers can cut through steel, aluminum, and many other materials in a matter of seconds.
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https://defenseinnovationmarketplace.dtic.mil/2022-directed-energy-and-non-lethal-weapons/
"Directed Energy is an umbrella term covering technologies that relate to the production of a beam of concentrated electromagnetic energy or atomic or subatomic particles. Examples include: high-efficiency laser sources and high-power RF systems, including pulsed power sources, micro-/millimeter wave sources, and antennas. Directed energy weapons use directed energy to incapacitate, damage, or destroy enemy equipment, facilities, and/or personnel.
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Today, Directed Energy weapons are being developed by the US and its adversaries for land, sea, and air and space applications. On land, this includes base defense, where DE can provide a deep magazine, long-range engagement, and low cost-per-shot against proliferated threats. Other land-based applications include clandestine target engagement using the ability of high-power microwaves to penetrate structures, invisible to the naked-eye, and damage or interrupt electronics without harming humans. On the sea, in the air, and in space DE weapons can provide platform self-defense. In a world of expanding, potential, DE military capabilities, a determination of scenarios that bound potential futures is a key input to creation of a national strategy that will shape the future to the advantage of the US and prevent our rivals and adversaries from obtaining them."
Burning cars exceed 1500 degrees. Once ignited, they burn down like this unless extinguished.
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled MORE EVIDENCE - 2 Miles from Lahaina Fire A Melted Car Surrounded by Gravel! D.E.W. or What? (IMAGES from video and video links), chuck allen wrote: “ The video, which was originally posted to TikTok, initially shows a short clip of what appears to be molten metal (identified as aluminium in the voiceover) spilling out from a burnt-out car in Maui.
It then cuts to a speaker, who claims that the aluminium in the wheels “needs a minimum of 660 Celsius for it to melt” and that there is “not a fire that could create that kind of heat”.
This is not true. The average temperature of a forest fire specifically is around 800°C with extremes of up to 1,200°C—far higher than the melting point of pure aluminium (approximately 660°C).
Furthermore, the metal part of the wheel is often made of aluminium alloy, meaning the aluminium is mixed with other metals (though they can also be made of steel or pure aluminium). This can reduce the melting point, though the melting point of steel is much higher than aluminium.”
This was a grass fire. There isn't enough fuel in a grass fire to burn hot enough and long enough.
Forest fires - yes. But in the Paradise fire (2018) images at the bottom only the houses burned to dust, including porcelain toilets, but the trees were still green. The car in the Paradise pics melted while the telephone pole and some trees were relatively untouched.
Except that this appeared to have been grassland, not forest.