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Public buildings are literally CRUMBLING in the UK in new crisis
BBC ^ | Sep 2 | BBC

Posted on 09/02/2023 2:55:29 PM PDT by RandFan

With just days to go before the start of the new school year, more than 100 schools in England have been told to shut buildings made with a certain type of concrete unless they put in place safety measures.

Here is what we know so far about the material at the centre of all this.

What is RAAC?

Reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete (RAAC) is a lightweight material that was used in roofs, floors and walls between the 1950s and 1990s, mostly on one and two-storey buildings.

It is a cheaper alternative to standard concrete. It is quicker to produce, and easier to install.

It is aerated, or "bubbly", like an Aero chocolate bar.

But it is less durable and has a limited lifespan of around 30 years.

Its structural behaviour differs significantly from traditional reinforced concrete.

Moreover, it is susceptible to structural failure when exposed to moisture. The bubbles can allow water to enter the material.

If that happens, any rebar reinforcing RAAC can also decay, rust and weaken.

Because of this, RAAC is often coated with another material, such as bitumen on roofing panels. But this material can also degrade.

The Standing Committee on Structural Safety (SCOSS) noted that: "Although called 'concrete', RAAC is very different from traditional concrete and, because of the way in which it was made, much weaker."

According to Loughborough University, there are tens of thousands of these structural panels already in use and "many are showing signs of wear and tear and deterioration".

The Health and Safety Executive says RAAC is now beyond its lifespan and may "collapse with little or no notice".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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Anyone in construction here?

This is really bad and a new crisis/scandal. Hospitals, schools, courts, etc are not deemed safe!

1 posted on 09/02/2023 2:55:29 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan
Moreover, it is susceptible to structural failure when exposed to moisture.

Seems like a dumb idea to use that material in rainy Britain.

2 posted on 09/02/2023 3:01:43 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: RandFan

It inevitably happens when a country goes socialist. Those in charge start to take as much as they can for themselves at the expense of the country itself.


3 posted on 09/02/2023 3:03:19 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: RandFan

"Just going to see O'Reilly, dear!"

4 posted on 09/02/2023 3:03:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RandFan
Ironically, it was the English, in the early 1800s, who reintroduced concrete (Portland cement) to the world after humans forgot how to make it for 1,400 years.

5 posted on 09/02/2023 3:05:36 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: RandFan

In the UK civilization itself is literally crumbling and in more ways than one. I’m eligible for a UK passport but I say why bother I wouldn’t want to live there anyway.


6 posted on 09/02/2023 3:06:10 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: RandFan

Oh boy, a new crisis!


7 posted on 09/02/2023 3:06:43 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: RandFan

Sorry, Brits need to send money to Ukraine.

Buildings falling apart is just part and parcel of living in a global country…


8 posted on 09/02/2023 3:09:06 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: RandFan

“Anyone in construction here?”

Yep, with concrete we require at least 1” of concrete FULLY surrounding rebar so as to prevent water from reaching the rebar and thereby (of course) causing the rebar to rust. Rebar gives concrete its tensile strength (concrete has excellent compressive strength without rebar), so take away the rebar, and any tension (pulling) on the concrete and it will fail.

At least that was the case when I managed major construction projects many years ago - cannot see why it would be different now.

I have NO CLUE as to why this crap was permitted in the UK, other than they may have had a Labor government at the time.


9 posted on 09/02/2023 3:11:21 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: RandFan
Back in the cave man days we built 50 year buildings ..
In the late 60s everything started moving to 20 year..... after they all started to fall apart ...
We have started moving back to 50 year.
Cost and time for 50 year ...way more ... but 50 year can last for 100s ... 20 year last ...well ...20

..light weight air entrained concrete .. they got what they paid for. Probably lasted longer then called for.

10 posted on 09/02/2023 3:16:26 PM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: BobL

Probably because it was cheaper.


11 posted on 09/02/2023 3:17:22 PM PDT by maro (MAGA!)
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To: RandFan
Moreover, it is susceptible to structural failure when exposed to moisture. The bubbles can allow water to enter the material.

In a climate such as in England, why would you use such material?

12 posted on 09/02/2023 3:18:00 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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To: BobL
Thanks for that. Just reading this article/explainer:

Hospitals, courts and a shopping centre (mall): Which other buildings are at risk of concrete collapse?

They're slowly doing assessments and it does seem really bad to me
13 posted on 09/02/2023 3:20:15 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

“Public buildings are literally CRUMBLING in the UK in new crisis”

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Don’t say that to loud or our congressional “leaders” will propose the U.S. rebuilding the U.K.


14 posted on 09/02/2023 3:32:23 PM PDT by patriot torch
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To: RandFan

“Thanks for that. Just reading this article/explainer:”

Thanks for the link, what a MESS! The thing about water reaching rebar is that it will wick-along the rebar and damage a good length of it, even if only its end is exposed. It’s CRAZY to use a porous concrete with rebar!

By the way, the Roman Pantheon is nearly 2000 years old and was made with concrete that actually self-heals and no rebar (but then it starts at 6 feet thick). We’re still trying to figure out the recipe for their concrete!


15 posted on 09/02/2023 3:46:51 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: RandFan

I’m going to experiment mixing dirt with cement for walkways and don’t care if there is any organic matter in it.
My goal is simply to prevent weeds.


16 posted on 09/02/2023 3:58:43 PM PDT by Haddit
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To: RandFan

I worked with laying foundations and walls. You work to vibrate the air OUT of concrete, not put bubbles into it.

Tofu Dreg construction practices of the UK, apparently.


17 posted on 09/02/2023 4:27:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: C19fan

In their defense, England was supposed to be covered by glaciers by the 90s. The buildings weren’t expected to last this long.


18 posted on 09/02/2023 4:38:23 PM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: BobL
We’re still trying to figure out the recipe for their [Roman] concrete!

We know how to make Roman concrete now. Long ago someone had the presence of mind to chip the recipe onto a stone and about 20 years or so someone found it. If I remember correctly the two magic ingredients are salt water and volcanic Ashe. It does have a different texture- sort of like wet clay.

19 posted on 09/02/2023 4:41:38 PM PDT by fini
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To: RandFan
And the sun never sets on the British Empire!

Except now and for the last 100 years, it has set big time for the Brits.

Consider a few other humanity greats like...
- Rome
- Dutch
- Spanish

Anybody want to guess who's next?

Hint: Civilization power tends to migrate from east to west.

20 posted on 09/02/2023 5:24:05 PM PDT by icclearly
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