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Western Culture is Toxic and Damages All of Our Lives
Critical Mass ^ | 7/14/22 | Howard Thorp

Posted on 11/15/2023 7:41:24 AM PST by DallasBiff

Firstly, I want to start with a disclaimer. This is a short piece. But this topic could easily be the subject of a long essay or even a book, so I’ll just concentrate on what I think are some key points.

Western culture is often seen as arising with the ancient Greeks, with Socrates, Plato and the others who gave us philosophy, geometry and democracy. Move forward and we reach the end of paganism and the beginning of organised religion. Christianity gave us original sin. This concept didn’t come from Jesus, although some Christians believe it originated in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, but came from the writings and ideas of St Augustine, who was born in 354 AD:

“Original sin is an Augustine Christian doctrine that says that everyone is born sinful. This means that they are born with a built-in urge to do bad things and to disobey God. It is an important doctrine within the Roman Catholic Church. The concept of Original Sin was explained in depth by St Augustine and formalised as part of Roman Catholic doctrine by the Councils of Trent in the 16th Century.”

(Excerpt) Read more at creatingsocialism.org ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: originalsin; westernculture
Huh, western culture gave him(Howard Thorp) the platform to spew his nonsense.
1 posted on 11/15/2023 7:41:24 AM PST by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Ummm, Howard, you’re just stupid.


2 posted on 11/15/2023 7:43:54 AM PST by Afterguard
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To: DallasBiff

“Western culture” has been bastardized by commies, fascists, maoists, etc. It is the erasure of Western culture that is the problem.


3 posted on 11/15/2023 7:45:59 AM PST by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: DallasBiff

Western culture was undermined when multiculturalism was the fad. It started out as a festival of food and customs. Now immigrants want to replace us.


4 posted on 11/15/2023 7:47:40 AM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: DallasBiff

Has the author committed suicide ? Author clearly hates itself.


5 posted on 11/15/2023 7:47:46 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: DallasBiff

As imperfect as Western civilization/culture is...and always has been...it is,far and away,the best “culture” ever developed by human civilization..


6 posted on 11/15/2023 7:48:47 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: Banana Republic)
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To: DallasBiff
Western culture became the best culture ever on earth in the aftermath of the First and Second Great Awakenings.

The further away we get from God and the positive changes made with the awakenings, the more of a crap hole society we become (like much of the rest of the world).

That's not a race thing as is often thought of when we say "west". This is an issue of people loving and trusting God enough to live it like we mean it, including in how we treat others and also including how little faith we put in our god-denying political class.

7 posted on 11/15/2023 7:56:11 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: DallasBiff

Gee, Howard, read the story about the family beat up and robbed in Philly yesterday. That ain’t Western Civilization, that’s LIBERALISM and ANARCHY.


8 posted on 11/15/2023 7:56:40 AM PST by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: DallasBiff

If he doesn’t like it he should go to iran/somalia/north korea/china and see how he likes it.


9 posted on 11/15/2023 8:02:54 AM PST by I want the USA back (Democracy dies when you take away from those who work and give to those who won't. Khrushchev.)
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To: DallasBiff

Western Culture is just fine. 1950s America had a damn near perfect culture. It was the “diversity” and “multiculturalism” worshippers who removed God from our schools and our society that American culture became depraved.


10 posted on 11/15/2023 8:14:02 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: Gay State Conservative

Kinda like democracy is the worst gov’mt structure, until compared to all of the others.

There are no solutions, only gives&takes — sorta from TSowell.

Pinheads who demand/expect absolutes deserve just that, a pin in the head. About 4 inches long should do it.


11 posted on 11/15/2023 8:39:19 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: DallasBiff

Sadly many people doing well in our Western Culture look back and wish for the “good old days” of the Stone Age and the mud hut hovel.

I never look back and wish for those times. I remember the abject poverty we lived in on the High Plains. While remembering some good times I would not want to live them again.


12 posted on 11/15/2023 9:17:27 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DallasBiff

the end of paganism and the beginning of organised
religion...

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As if pagan religion wasn’t organized....

..what a lying scumbag.

Spit


13 posted on 11/15/2023 9:47:41 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: DallasBiff

Howard is ignorant of what eastern culture is.


14 posted on 11/15/2023 9:48:42 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: DallasBiff
This is the total rejection of reality by the Left, and what we see today.

It was the left which brought about the doctrine of people being "good" at birth.

It is completely wrong. Anyone who has raised children know you do not have to teach a child to lie and steal, or to attack others. It comes as part of being human.

It is also seen in science. In evolutionary theory, gene groups find ways to be selfish and propagate. If cheating advances the individual produce more offspring, cheating is rewarded.

Almost all animals have territory and compete for mates, territory, food, and shelter.

15 posted on 11/15/2023 9:49:48 AM PST by marktwain
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To: DallasBiff

“Christianity gave us original sin. This concept didn’t come from Jesus, although some Christians believe it originated in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, but came from the writings and ideas of St Augustine, who was born in 354 AD.”

Hey, Howard! You do realize that Jesus was born around 4 B.C., right? That is about 358 years before Augustine, right? Just checking.


16 posted on 11/15/2023 10:29:19 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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Western Culture is Toxic and Damages All of Our Lives - 7/14/22 Critical Mass article by Howard Thorp

Howard Thorp is a rabid socialist/communist. He sees capitalism as an unredeemable system that favors the rich and hurts the poor. To some degree, he's right. The bailouts our government has given to "too big to fail" institutions/corporations while not treating the individual the same gives credence to those who critize capitalism as primarily benefiting the rich. The size of our government and its debt negatively skews the virtues of 'Adam Smith' capitalism. Billionaire oligarchs and their stooges (News media, Education systems etc.) control western democracies. I found it interesting that Thorp believes the French Revolution as the most important event in history. We know that the French Revolution came about because the elites (royalty/nobility) were tone deaf, ignoring the needs of the poor and middle-class. Sound familiar?

Thorp fails to acknowledge the weaknesses and shortcomings of socialism and communism. This is his intellectual dishonesty. The truth is that any 'system' can be corrupted because governing systems are run by men.

The Founders were wise because they attempted to create a government based on checks and balances so that absolute power and corruption could be challenged. Let's pray and act to project the government envisioned by the Founders and a capitalist system envisioned by Adam Smith. This will require that those in power (government and business) humble themselves ask for and receive God's wisdom - and then act on it.

" Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time." - 1 Tim 2:1-6

17 posted on 11/15/2023 10:29:22 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: imabadboy99

“Western Culture is just fine. 1950s America had a damn near perfect culture. It was the “diversity” and “multiculturalism” worshippers who removed God from our schools and our society that American culture became depraved.”

Yep, things were going just fine until multiculturalism was forced onto the western world.


18 posted on 11/15/2023 11:22:57 AM PST by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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