That's one of the themes running through Chaim Potok's "The Chosen". Good novel
Posted on 12/06/2023 7:01:21 AM PST by RandFan
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Over 60,000 anti-Zionist Jews gathered in New York
"Israel is not the state of the Jews."
"Zionism is not Judaism."
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Didn’t God establish Israel? I thought that’s who established it after the time of Moses. What was the Pentateuch about if not the establishment of Israel by God, that they were a chosen people in a chosen by God land?
Same for Christians. I know very few who have read the Bible from beginning to end even once.
Basically they think that Israel is an affront to God because the messiah hasn't arrived yet.
Neturei Karta members do plenty of strange things, like attend conferences in Iran seeking to deny the Holocaust, along with following a very fundamentalist version of Judaism.
People trying to use the Neturei Karta beliefs to support political points of view about the current war in Israel are just adding noise to the discussion. They might as well be citing members of the Flat Earth Society in a discussion of whether or not our nation should spend more money on space exploration.
They are talking about the modern state of Israel when they say it shouldnt exist.
Without a prophet who speaks for God, who’s to know whether God established the state of Israel or not? After all, God operates through humans who sometimes are not even Godly.
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1. All the prophets we need are in the Bible. If you won’t believe them after Israel’s miraculous return to the land, you wouldn’t believe a modern prophet speaking for God.
2. The return of the Jews to the land, speaking their Biblical language and defeating their enemies, has to be a miracle. What more do you need? Do you expect God to announce it by re-aligning the planets to say so?
I’m going to wax on Soros his twin Wyss in Switzerland who does the same shite
Soros is jewish when playing victim card and it reflects his very unusual youth
He hates a conservative run Israel
He detests nationalism and nation state sovereignty
And has devoted his cash against that
Wyss in switzerland does essentially the same on the same scale and is becoming better known here now
Wish they’d die off and frankly I’m surprised Soros hasn’t been assassinated
He made serious foes in Poland
He’s extremely destructive against our side
These two along with others are who put the mobs on the streets in hours
It’s effective
And they are doing it against Israel even now despite the recent horrible atrocity
Makes no sense. No sense at all.
Sounds like your Jewish friends don’t believe God did anything.
Oh, You Foolish Little Zionists (Yiddish Anti-Zionist Song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQMRwk8WDd4
Just to show that not all Jewish people are on board with Israel.
That's one of the themes running through Chaim Potok's "The Chosen". Good novel
The Jews who question whether the state of Israel was established by God seem to be ignoring the obvious. Makes one wonder if they believe in God.
60,000 of them, in the streets of NYC alone? I thought they were rarer than that.
I would assume these are the branch of Hasid who oppose a Jewish-governed state in Israel prior to the coming of the Messiah.
They consider modern Israel premature.
They’re not anti-Zionist so much as not-yet-Zionist.
That is their theological position.
These Jews sided with Lenin and Stalin before they turned on the Jews, killed them, and drove them from Russia.
Just curious. Are you saying that as a Jew or a Christian?
All the prophets we need are in the Bible.
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Just curious. Are you saying that as a Jew or a Christian?
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Both — because the prophecies are in the Old Testament, which is accepted by Jews and Christians alike.
How can they turn on their own?
Saying that the Christian understanding of OT Scripture is accepted by all Jews is not accurate and might even be a bit arrogant.
They might as well remain as diaspora then.
Kapos one and all.
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