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Ridley Scott’s ‘Napoleon’ turns a legend into a loser (2:44 PM 12/13/2023)
Angelus ^ | December 5, 2023 | Andrew Fowler

Posted on 12/13/2023 2:59:32 PM PST by Fiji Hill

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To: Boogieman

The credits show actors cast for roles that are not played on screen - Marshals Ney, Soult, Davout, Bessieres, etc., and others. In the movie they may be present in the background or may have been a rather random line without being identified. The longer cut may give more of a role to these.


41 posted on 12/13/2023 4:29:00 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Fiji Hill

They don’t make “War and Peace” or “Gone With the Wind” caliber movies anymore. Died off kind of like the country as a whole.


42 posted on 12/13/2023 4:30:00 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“...but I am too old to go out at nights..”

Not too old...just wise.


43 posted on 12/13/2023 4:32:30 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

BTW its Vivar these days, not Bivar. Been there, its a tiny place. Its a very short drive from Burgos. Burgos is worth a couple of days, and there is way more “El Cid” there, and its rather charming otherwise as well.


44 posted on 12/13/2023 4:36:22 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Ikemeister

Ouch! That was boneheaded of me. But yeah.


45 posted on 12/13/2023 4:51:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Thomas Jefferson loved France and had a lot of sympathy for the French Revolution (he witnessed its earliest stages in 1789 and the Federalists in 1800 were terrified he would inaugurate the horrors of the Revolution if he was elected President), but he had nothing but contempt for Bonaparte.


46 posted on 12/13/2023 4:57:16 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Fiji Hill

I may have went to see this one. I listened to this guy who is a history expert and thought “well maybe not”.

https://rumble.com/v2zvu4h-napoleon-movie-is-going-to-be-horrific.html


47 posted on 12/13/2023 4:59:24 PM PST by dforest
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Lol! Thanks for that post.
Some folks ya just can’t please.
I liked it.


48 posted on 12/13/2023 5:12:17 PM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: buwaya

The French are as dumb as the Brits. Both countries executed their monarchs to be instantly gratified, creating more problems for themselves in the long-run, only to once again return to a monarchy. France’s last monarchy ran from 1852 to 1870. After Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell died in 1658, his son decided he didn’t want to succeed his father, so the Brits begged Charles II to return to England from exile, so the monarchy could be restored.


49 posted on 12/13/2023 5:16:10 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Fiji Hill

Napoleon’s life is too big to put in a single movie, a multi miniseries would be a better venue for his life.
That being said, I’ll pass on a cuckolded Bonepart.


50 posted on 12/13/2023 5:21:25 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: Fiji Hill

It is rare to find truth in anything created today.


51 posted on 12/13/2023 5:21:29 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: Bonemaker
They don’t make “War and Peace” or “Gone With the Wind” caliber movies anymore. Died off kind of like the country as a whole.

Same with popular music. When you walk into a store like Trader Joe's which plays background music, you hear songs from the middle decades of the last century rather than the top tunes of 2023.

52 posted on 12/13/2023 5:21:43 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: mass55th

Thats one effect. There were others. Which is why I highly recommend Paul Johnsons “Birth of the Modern”. Napoleons influence reached from Portugal to Russia. He turned everything in Europe upside down. The independence of Brazil to the Decembrist plot, just to name a couple, were all inspired to a degree by his actions and memory.

Complex business.


53 posted on 12/13/2023 5:32:14 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: alternatives?

There was never “truth” in theater, ever. Nor is there in popular memory. Shakespeare (as a for instance) cannot be relied on.

There is a rather nice bit in Napoleon that makes this point, the the theatrical pantomime where Napoleon first sees Josephine hanging out with Barras.


54 posted on 12/13/2023 5:36:34 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Gene Eric

Still have it.

I’ve been tempted to go see Napoleon in the theaters simply to see the battle scenes on the big screen. Once that window closes, home screens just aren’t the same.

The Holdovers has just been released. Seems to be a very good movie of the kind we say endlessly that we want Hollywood to make more of. If we’re serious about that, we should go see them when they come out. I want to see it before writing it up for the ping list, so I guess I’d better get moving.

American Fiction has just hit the theaters. I recommend it highly. Bear in mind that this isn’t just a parody of black-white relations in America today, which is how the usual suspects among the critics take it. They’re mostly all so deep in their bubble they don’t have a clue, but EVERY white character in the film is a smug, condescending, virtue signaling, identity politics liberal. They are drawn from academia, publishing and the movie industry. And the movie is brutal on them. Conservatives will see the point instantly. Liberals? Nah. But see it and enjoy.

Angel Studios, which produced The Sound of Freedom, is now out with The Shift, which is being reviewed as a retelling of the Book of Job. Also on my list.


55 posted on 12/13/2023 5:42:55 PM PST by sphinx
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To: mass55th

If you read the Commonwealth Protectorate Constitution - called ‘Instrument of Governance’ later revised and called ‘Petition and Advice’ they sound surprisingly modern. They will also seem very familiar! They were the first examples of a written constitution for a nation.


56 posted on 12/13/2023 5:45:13 PM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: buwaya

Thanks for the info.


57 posted on 12/13/2023 6:04:53 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Reily

Thanks for the information.


58 posted on 12/13/2023 6:05:18 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Fiji Hill

anyone remember Bill and Ted’s Adventure?


59 posted on 12/13/2023 6:11:12 PM PST by MNDude
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To: sphinx

Appreciate the recommendations!

Regarding Napoleon, I’m looking forward to the combination of Scott & Phoenix. Ultimately, it’s a form of entertainment that’s hopefully ‘close enough’ to the events being portrayed.

Yeah, I tend to favor both A24 and Angel.


60 posted on 12/13/2023 6:11:13 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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