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Obama getting elected twice effectively nullified the NBC requirement.


10 posted on 12/31/2023 1:15:46 PM PST by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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To: SecondAmendment
Obama getting elected twice effectively nullified the NBC requirement.

I think that is true.

There was disagreement about the precise definition of a Natural Born Citizen. The Constitution didn't spell it out. I like Vattel's definition from the 18th century, but he didn't write the US Constitution. Some US court should have spelled it out so that we had a definitive answer, but that hasn't happened.

At this point, I think it's too late. Any court that tried to spell out NBC along the restrictive lines that Vattel laid out would, in effect, be saying that the 8 years of Obama's presidency were illegitimate. I can't imagine anyone doing that. So we're stuck. I dislike it very much but I suspect that the difference between "US citizen" and "Natural Born US Citizen" is now negligible. Same thing. It shouldn't be that way, but good luck finding a judge who wants to stir things up.

24 posted on 12/31/2023 1:42:38 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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This is true in the real world in which we live. Some here rant and rave about the topic, but until the Supreme Court chimes in, on this, and other issues, we’re screwed.

Honest Americans are the only group in America that are subject to the rule of law. Illegals and felons are rewarded for bad behavior.

36 posted on 12/31/2023 1:57:54 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: SecondAmendment

Right you are. Obozo was the worst prez in our lifetimes and Nikki would be even worse. Mr. Ramaswamy, otoh, is smart as they come.

Trump likes him, so he may get some post in the next Trump administration. He’d make an awesome Press Secretary, as he tells the truth and has more information in his head than the entire press corps combined. He’d make them look like the biased idiots they are.


46 posted on 12/31/2023 2:29:52 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: SecondAmendment
Obama getting elected twice effectively nullified the NBC requirement.

Probably the most accurate comment I am ever likely to see in this entire thread.

59 posted on 12/31/2023 3:16:53 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SecondAmendment

It absolutely did no such thing.


65 posted on 12/31/2023 3:33:46 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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