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To: Jan_Sobieski

I always thought Bill Clinton knew about the 9/11 attacks. I thought that by watching his reaction at that Memorial Service attended by Bush and people in DC.

Clinton has a way of showing things on his face. He is a terrible liar.

I think we were duped over who all was behind 9/11 and of course The Patriot Act and the FISA court came soon after.


14 posted on 01/10/2024 12:36:55 PM PST by dforest
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To: dforest
I think we were duped over who all was behind 9/11 and of course The Patriot Act and the FISA court came soon after.

I'm beginning to believe the same.
I used to mock the so-called 'truthers' who would shout 'steel does not melt'. Of course it can melt, and if not melt - the high temperatures from the full tanks of airplane fuel could weaken the structure greatly. But then I watched some video by Judy Wood ('Where did the Towers go') that highlighted some issues that I had never heard:

a)Each Tower consisted nearly of 500,000 tons of material (concrete, steel) - but there was little rubble left after the collapse. It basically all turned to dust ('dustified' was a term she coined).
b) There was only one metal file cabinet found in the pile of dust - and it looked like it had been melted/fried by some energy.
c) Beneath one of the Twin Tower buildings was a retaining wall (called the bathtub) to hold back the Hudson River. IF the Twin Tower building had collapsed - all 500,000 tons, this wall should have been damaged, and Lower Manhattan flooded. But the 'Bathtub' was undamaged, while the buildings were pretty much all turned to dust (with little rubble).
The cause? Don't know, and although Judy Wood refused to draw any conclusions (the purpose of her video was to present her position that neither planes, not planted explosives, could have caused what we saw - the Twin Towers getting turned into dust), but she dangled the idea that perhaps it was result of some sort of Directed Energy Weapon that we don't know about.

I have no idea, but I've come to the idea that there was more to the Twin Tower collapse than what I had previously concluded. And like you stated, a lot of bad crap certainly came out of it -- The taking away of many of our liberties with the Patriot Act, TSA, etc. And the funneling of billions of dollars into thieving hands within the Government and some of their close contacts in industry.

24 posted on 01/10/2024 1:10:10 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: dforest
I think we were duped over who all was behind 9/11 and of course The Patriot Act and the FISA court came soon after.

My personal theory is that they KNEW what Bin Laden and his friends were up to and they ALLOWED it to happen specifically because of the reasons you state.

All the other conspiracy theories were thrown up and disseminated to obfuscate this and to make any such theory seem like non-sense.

Able Danger and Goerlick's Wall help bolster my theory.

29 posted on 01/10/2024 1:25:40 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: dforest
I always thought Bill Clinton knew about the 9/11 attacks.

Clinton knew that an operation like 9/11 had been planned and talked about by Al Qaeda for many years before it actually happened. He also knew that, under his administration, the FBI had been tasked with investigating and persecuting his political opponents, rather than preventing a major terrorist attack like 9/11. He also knew that he had had at least one opportunity to rub out Bin Laden during his administration, and had chosen not to pursue it.

30 posted on 01/10/2024 1:32:44 PM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: dforest

I think we were duped over who all was behind 9/11 and of course The Patriot Act and the FISA court came soon after.


When this is all said the done, The “Patriot” Act & FISA will rank right up there with the 16th Amendment & creation of the very privately-owned Federal Reserve.


32 posted on 01/10/2024 1:37:39 PM PST by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: dforest

I recall reading Clinton (and or his admin) was told of attacks they considered them unlikely/not credible info.

Maybe Clinton is one of Jeff’s pals who bought souvenirs?


57 posted on 01/11/2024 3:32:38 AM PST by b4me
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