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To: daniel1212

I thought you go to heaven when you die? At least that’s what everyone believes. Apparently these folks died and didn’t go anywhere which is exactly what the Bible says. We sleep until that day when Jesus returns.

The doctrine of an immortal disembodied soul...another lie from Rome and most believe it.


3 posted on 01/18/2024 5:02:29 AM PST by vespa300
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To: vespa300
Matthew 17 Six days later, Jesus took Peter, James, and John the brother of James and went up on a high mountain. They were all alone there. 2 While these followers watched him, Jesus was changed. His face became bright like the sun, and his clothes became white as light. 3 Then two men were there, talking with him. They were Moses and Elijah.

2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

So we have the example of Moses and Elijah who aren't sleeping waiting on the second coming of Jesus.

And 2 Corinthians teaches that to be absent the body is to be present with Christ.

8 posted on 01/18/2024 5:23:07 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: vespa300
I thought you go to heaven when you die? At least that’s what everyone believes.

No, not everyone believes that. There's another place you can go to other than Heaven. It's a four-letter word that also starts with an "H".
9 posted on 01/18/2024 5:25:38 AM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: vespa300

They were not dead....yet! They were very, very close to death.

And there is NO soul-sleep. Unless you think Jesus is a liar. Luke 23:43
Neither is there a Purgatory, but there was a place called Hades and Abrahams’ bosom, before Jesus lead the old testament believers to paradise (He did that during the time after the cross, and before he rose)


13 posted on 01/18/2024 5:46:01 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: vespa300
I thought you go to heaven when you die? At least that’s what everyone believes. Apparently these folks died and didn’t go anywhere which is exactly what the Bible says. We sleep until that day when Jesus returns. The doctrine of an immortal disembodied soul...another lie from Rome and most believe it.

The problem with your argument is that no one here actually froze to death, despite the misleading headline. "when the cells really freeze completely, they undergo a crystallization process and become glass-like crystals. In this process they are irreparably damaged. "When the cells thaw after this process, all that is left of them is a mass of pulp," explained Dr. Alvin Merendino. This is a main reason why it’s currently impossible for doctors to freeze people and bring them back to life a few years later. - https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/meet-the-woman-who-froze-like-a-lump-of-meat-in-the-freezer-and-survived-679417

Secondly, there are many testimonies of those who were "dead" including atheists, who had NDE's.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/can-science-explain-near-death-experiences

Thus your argument is countered by such.

What matters is what the Scripture best reveals. In brief.

15 posted on 01/18/2024 5:50:13 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: vespa300

Do you also believe that a dead body should not be cremated??


23 posted on 01/18/2024 6:43:18 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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