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Navy Personnel Chief Sees Low Risk in Recruiting Sailors Without High School Diplomas
U.S. Naval Institute ^ | FEBRUARY 7, 2024 | HEATHER MONGILIO

Posted on 02/08/2024 11:50:55 AM PST by Retain Mike

Faced with a shortfall of more than 7,000 sailors, the head of Navy personnel is tapping into a new population of potential recruits: those who haven’t finished high school.

Since 2000, the Navy has not permitted anyone who did not have a high school or GED diploma to enlist in the sea service. But on Jan. 26, the service opened bootcamp to these Americans with some caveats, the Navy announced.

Vice Adm. Richard Cheeseman is aiming to enlist at least 500 people who did not finish high school or earn a GED diploma, he told USNI News this week. As of 2021, there were 2 million Americans ages 16-24 who fit that category, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

Any American between 18 and 41 can now enlist in the Navy, as long as they score at least a 50 on the Armed Forces Qualification Test and meet other requirements outside of education, according to the Navy’s policy released.

There is already interest, Cheeseman said. Last year, 2,442 people without high school diplomas walked into recruiting offices.

“Thousands of folks have walked in the door and we had to turn them away, and I’m certain there’s untapped talent in that group of people, and I’m looking to capitalize on that,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.usni.org ...


TOPICS: Education; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: navy; recruiting
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The high school diploma probably means very little now anyway. At least here in Oregon public education has gone so far over the cliff they no longer have to even pretend there is an attempt at education. Below is the letter I send annually to Oregon papers and elsewhere.

Oregon Eliminates Educational Standards

For this school year, Oregon students will not be required to demonstrate skills in reading, writing, and math. Until 2026, an Oregon high school diploma no longer guarantees academic achievement, but only participation in a system with undefined parameters. The legislators, school districts, and the governor supporting Senate Bill 744 saw that this “will benefit Oregon’s Black, Latino, Latina, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of color”.

The state adopted the position held by many 19th century abolitionists. When I read Fredrick Douglass’ autobiographies, one passage always stays with me. After speaking to an abolitionist audience, Douglass considered the evening a great success, because he concluded his talk believing these people were convinced, he was equally human with them.

He mentioned this as a significant event, because many supporters of black freedom questioned whether these people were fully human. If educators would treat minorities as individuals, they would design programs allowing opportunities for achievement commensurate with those they see for white students.

I remember Dr. Martin Luther King saying, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character…..little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.”

To me these men’s understanding of brotherhood and individual value proves more meaningful than perceptions of racial or ethnic inferiority.

Oregon just dropped all graduation standards, failing all of its students in the name of ‘equity’

https://thehill.com/opinion/education/4288044-oregon-just-dropped-all-graduation-standards-failing-all-of-its-students-in-the-name-of-equity/

1 posted on 02/08/2024 11:50:55 AM PST by Retain Mike
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To: dfwgator

Thought I’d better join before I got drafted.


2 posted on 02/08/2024 11:53:20 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Retain Mike

yeah they only have to be able to run modern nuclear instruments and weapons...

If they cant read the dials whats the problem ???


3 posted on 02/08/2024 11:54:11 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: SaveFerris

4 posted on 02/08/2024 11:54:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SaveFerris

"Lee Harvey, you are a madman. When you stole that cow, and your friend tried to make it with the cow. I want to party with you, cowboy."

5 posted on 02/08/2024 11:55:35 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Retain Mike
Any American between 18 and 41 can now enlist in the Navy, as long as they score at least a 50 on the Armed Forces Qualification Test and meet other requirements outside of education, according to the Navy’s policy released.

50? 50 out of 100? Is this from the Bee...

6 posted on 02/08/2024 11:58:24 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Tennessee Nana

On the one hand, they don’t get to run nukes, electronics, etc. without first successfully completing the associated ‘trade schools’ and qualifying on every aspect of the thing they’re going to be running.

On the other hand ... idiots are not going to successfully complete that training, and the Navy may well be the most technological of the services. If they recruit a bunch of untrainable, unqualifiable idiots ... what is the Navy then going to do with them?


7 posted on 02/08/2024 11:58:57 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Retain Mike

Well... somebody who doesn’t graduate from high school is at least malleable, maybe more so than somebody who is an experience party animal with college under their belt. Besides the military can train them up to GED... not a big deal.


8 posted on 02/08/2024 12:00:00 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Retain Mike

ASVAB is more meaningful. I went to public school with city blacks.
They graduated. They didn’t earn it.


9 posted on 02/08/2024 12:01:17 PM PST by EEGator
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To: dfwgator

I like fast cars and fast women!


10 posted on 02/08/2024 12:05:56 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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I don’t know if it has changed, but 50 meant percentile of test takers.
As in a 63 on the test put you in the top 37% of test takers.
A 100 is impossible, as being in the top 0% is mathematical nonsense.


11 posted on 02/08/2024 12:06:03 PM PST by EEGator
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"idiots are not going to successfully complete that training"

Sure they will, when they miss enrollment and graduation goals for the third of fourth time, they will just lower the standards.

Idiots will be Googling, "how to fix radar" on youtube
12 posted on 02/08/2024 12:07:58 PM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: NorthMountain

What are they going to be, cooks ???

All the blacks ??? Hardly....

The military is DEI now...

They’ll go to the tech schools and get gifted a “passing grade” to run those nuke instruments...

and outrank the smarter white recruits with HS diplomas shortly thereafter...


13 posted on 02/08/2024 12:08:36 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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-a bunch of untrainable, unqualifiable idiots ... what is the Navy then going to do with them?-

They will rinse dirty pot and pans and put them in the dishwasher while a highly trained sailor will push the start button.


14 posted on 02/08/2024 12:08:48 PM PST by bosco24
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To: NorthMountain

I was in the USAF during Nam

I know how it was even back then...


15 posted on 02/08/2024 12:10:22 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Retain Mike

Reading and comprehending is extremely low among non grads (HS) which means they may not understand safety rules, equipment operation, etc. This failure to understand can/will lead to accidents, injuries, deaths, etc.


16 posted on 02/08/2024 12:18:09 PM PST by elpadre (an)
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To: NorthMountain

....there used to be a saying in the Air Force that
our jets were “Designed by folks with PhDs and Masters
degrees, were flown by folks who had college degrees,
and maintained by folks who had high school diplomas.”

Well, I guess the Navy is heading away from having high
school diplomas, at least for some ratings (you probably
don’t need a diploma to become a Ship’s Serviceman or
a Boatswains Mate....)


17 posted on 02/08/2024 12:25:05 PM PST by TokarevM57
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To: Tennessee Nana

Let the ASVAB sort them out.


18 posted on 02/08/2024 12:29:23 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Retain Mike

Less exposure to public school is a positive. Hopefully the advanced techy jobs will go to the educated.


19 posted on 02/08/2024 12:32:51 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Retain Mike

“McNamaras Morons” redux.


20 posted on 02/08/2024 12:40:11 PM PST by donozark (Even when Paul Pelosi isn't drinking, he's getting hammered.)
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