Posted on 02/10/2024 5:16:19 PM PST by RandFan
@BasedMikeLee
I just finished speaking for four hours on the Senate floor, offering amendment after amendment to the Ukraine bill. After promising a “fair and open” amendment process, Democrats objected to every one of my half-dozen attempts to make my common-sense amendments pending.
From real border-security protections to measures to prevent non-citizens from voting in federal elections to a measure preventing U.S. funds from flowing to Hamas to restrictions on paying the salaries of Ukrainian bureaucrats (among other amendments), Democrats refused to let the Senate consider my proposed changes.
Their reasoning in essence: “Republicans had their chance, but lost their chance to have a say on the contents of this bill when they rejected the border deal announced Sunday night,” even though only four Republicans supported that measure.
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Has he said anything about that?
Not to my knowledge.
I just hope the House rejects any more money for Ukraine and for continued strife in the Middle East.
It may help a lot that whip Steve Scalise is expected to return to work soon as his cancer is now in remission!!!
His absence and substitute whip Emmer’s poor job the other day in rounding up votes to Impeach Mayorkas was extremely embarrassing.
I truly hope the speaker rules it out as well
>>>Please see my other new post.
That doesn’t mean he wont put it up for a vote.
He has tried to pass the Israel-only portion of it which failed.
He hasn’t any specific comments on this so I assume the worst.
We must fight now.
Call your senators.
Call your senators.
Tough for me to do because I live in Maryland with 2 lefties.
Moreover, no help in sight as our former NeverTrumper Gov. Larry Hogan has now launched his campaign for the seat being vacated by the retirement of Ben Cardin.
At least, I do have thee ONLY GOP Congressman in MD, Dr. Andy Harris, whose office I do call.
The senate takes a dead bill from the house, amends the crud out of it in the form of a spending bill that looks nothing like what the house sent along, then they send it back to the house as amended.
It’s a dog and pony show. The bill originated in the house. It just had absolutely nothing to do with what was sent back. A real joke.
Need more Repubs(not Rinos)to put a stop to this crap.
“Yes, I thought all spending bills must originate in the house. Dems do as they please?”
The Constitution, as written, is dead. We now have a living Constitution interpreted daily by federal judges and the Supreme Court. Legislation by Congress is being replaced by presidential “executive orders”, arbitrary regulations issued by the unelected and unaccountable permanent bureaucracy, and the edicts of appointed judges. Actual legislation by Congress is written by staffers working closely with special interests and activist groups. Bills run thousands of pages, are not read by the legislators before votes, and are passed at in the dead of the night or under some threat of a draconian government shutdown if not passed at the witching hour.
Our system of governance is broken and ignored.
Ukraine can sell war bonds.
Ukraine can sell or lease territory to Poland and Hungary.
Ukraine can sell territory to billionaires for new independent countries.
Israel can sell war bonds and building lots.
The Palestinian Authority can sell Gaza offshore extraction rights.
Congress can wise up.
Of course, if the speaker doesn’t schedule it for a vote, the traitors don’t get a chance to pass it. Wonder if he has the cojones to do that?
Shut ‘em down !
Exactly. Speaker Johnson can assign it to any committee he wants to - signing the bill's death warrant out of the gate. It will never get out of committee and brought to the floor.
Thank you!👍
Well, Republicans (at least sensible ones) have been wanting straight-up single issue voting for years. (I agree.)
Now we have it, this time.
So, the only amendments I would support would be those directly related to Ukraine, and my inclination (granted I’ve not read the bill) would be to support limits on payments to Ukrainian bureaucrats. For that matter, I think US support should be limited to weapons and physical humanitarian aid materials - literally, blankets and such.
Now, granted, we should have had a border bill (one most FReepers could agree with!) YEARS ago. But, this thing is the round in the chamber just now: Get the damn thing voted on and done with so we can get back to a bill that focuses the border, period.
As for Johnson, even before he became Speaker he indicated support for Ukraine so long as Biden would make some sort of mission statement / come out with some real plan regarding Ukraine, as opposed to mindless “forever funding”. And, he insisted on better accounting. I would add cuts required in other areas (like the IRS.) If you go through each House member’s statements on the matter, this is a majority view.
I’d prefer the bill originate in the House in the 1st place.
If you go through each Republican House member’s statements on the matter, this is a majority view.
Well, about that strife in the ME...
Without the aid to Israel we end up with either:
An endless heavy military commitment / involvement / war against Iran’s proxies to keep Iran / Hezbollah (etc.) deterred and off balance, or;
A REAL genocide / Israel destroyed and Iran in a very strong position, OR;
Israel ends up having to fire off around 1/4 of its nukes (and we’ll see where that “fun” leads).
The economic consequences to us of either of the latter 2 would be devastating.
Enjoy your consequences.
Without the aid to Israel
>>>As though all the aid we’ve given Ukraine has been worthwhile . . . . . .
It’s past time for other nations to step forward and shoulder the burden of these conficts.
We have plenty of dire problems/crises here at home to handle!!!
Ok, you have NO idea of the consequences. Or history, or what it tells us.
My apologies that I tried to reason with you.
However, I will make one further observation:
We know what happens when Europe considerably arms up. And nukes are pretty “easy” to make, these days. You only think, from an incredibly coddled position, what “dire” is.
I don’t know if the House has even voted on it yet. It is required that all funding appropriations bills originate from or receive approval from the House. Typically, when some scum Senator from the opposition wants money for something THEY initiate the bill, pass it (if they’re majority-many times with RINO votes,) and then the bill has to be met in Conference between the two arms by a selected committee to work out differences and come up with a bill agreeable to both.
If the Speaker chooses the conferees well enough, the Senate bill would be dead.
Speaker Johnson should thank Schumer for all of the hard work his party put into the partisan bill and inform him the House will take it up after the Senate passes HR2 (The Secure the Border Act).
EC
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