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Nov. 9, 1989: A people takes its freedom | History Stories
Deutsche Welle (DW) ^ | Nov 8, 2022 | Rosalie Engels

Posted on 02/11/2024 3:37:32 PM PST by MeganC

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To: MeganC

Did you somehow become convinced Putin reinstated the Soviet Empire?

Did you hear that on MSNBC, or was it NPR?


21 posted on 02/11/2024 5:34:35 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: MeganC

What’s mildly fascinating is that if Putin were a Soviet and if he did reinstate the Soviet Union, our media would go back to loving him.


22 posted on 02/11/2024 5:37:38 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: MeganC

The reason for this is our media works for the communist globalists.

Therefore, our media hates it when people have freedom.


23 posted on 02/11/2024 5:39:34 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

You have no frigging clue where I get my information.

Not a single one.

L


24 posted on 02/11/2024 5:43:31 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

Yet in your reply to me, you seem to be concealing whatever those sources are.


25 posted on 02/11/2024 5:49:16 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

So what if I am?

L


26 posted on 02/11/2024 6:14:02 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

I have no particular interest in revealing your source to be the leftist mainstream media.


27 posted on 02/11/2024 6:16:05 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

“Did you somehow become convinced Putin reinstated the Soviet Empire?”

The Soviet flag flies on Russian ships.
The Soviet flag is used by Soviet forces in Ukraine.
The hammer and sickle is installed on new government buildings.
Putin brought back the Soviet national anthem.
The Soviet red star is on every military ship and aircraft.
Putin invokes the Russian Empire and the USSR to assert territorial claims.
Putin ‘rehabilitated’ his hero Stalin.
Putin imprisons or kills critics, political opponents, and anyone he dislikes.
Putin threatens nuclear war four or five times a day.
Russia/USSR still has the same friends.

What freedoms there are in Russia get eroded with every passing day.

If Germany did just ONE of these things you’d call them Nazis.

Russia is therefore indistinguishable from the Soviet Union.


28 posted on 02/11/2024 6:16:52 PM PST by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: MeganC

No, you forgot one thing. The one thing that makes Putin the anti-Soviet leader.

Putin destroyed the most powerful weapon used by the Soviets against the Russian people:

He allows Russians to practice Christianity.


29 posted on 02/11/2024 6:21:27 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

“(Putin) allows Russians to practice Christianity.”

No, they can attend the state church. Period.

Also, the leaders of free people don’t ‘allow’ people to exercise rights of conscience. You write like a Russian when you write crap like that.


30 posted on 02/11/2024 6:30:13 PM PST by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: reasonisfaith

Once again, you don’t know diddly squat about where I get my information.

You’ve obviously made up your mind. So further conversation is pointless.

L


31 posted on 02/11/2024 7:30:06 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: reasonisfaith

The ‘’soviets’’ were Russians. “Soviet’’ means ‘’council’’ in Russian.

The Russians did this to themselves.


32 posted on 02/11/2024 10:05:00 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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33 posted on 02/12/2024 10:09:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: jmacusa

No, the Soviets were the deep state of Russia.

To understand it better, think of people like John Podesta, or Valerie Jarrett. It can be said they’re Americans, like I’m an American or presumably you are.

But they’re on the opposite team—they’re the enemy because they want to turn our nation into what the Soviets did to Russia. Only worse.


34 posted on 02/12/2024 1:51:21 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: Lurker

I never wanted our conversation to get personal.

It’s just that I would rather believe what’s true, not what I prefer to be true.


35 posted on 02/12/2024 1:53:19 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: MeganC

I simply meant Putin doesn’t persecute Christians as the Soviets did.

By the way, he also speaks against pedophilia and satanism.


36 posted on 02/12/2024 2:03:07 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

“I simply meant Putin doesn’t persecute Christians as the Soviets did.”

https://www.persecution.org/2021/06/01/russia-tightens-restrictions-churches-missionary-activity/

Russia Tightens Restrictions on Churches and Missionary Activity

06/01/2021 Russia (International Christian Concern) – On April 5, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed an amendment to the country’s Religion Law, initiating significant changes for ministries across Russia, according to Forum 18. The amendment, which comes into force in October 2021, covers a wide range of religious issues under the guise of “protecting the spiritual sovereignty of Russia.”

Perhaps the most significant change is a new requirement that all missionaries, clergy, and religious teachers educated abroad must receive “additional professional education in the field of the basics of state-confessional relations in the Russian Federation.” In effect, if a missionary or pastor received their religious training outside Russia, they will be required to receive additional State-authored education. While the new law does not apply to those already in engaged in ministry, it will apply to every new pastor or missionary going forward regardless of whether they are foreign or Russian citizens. There is currently no information about what the content or requirements of the courses will be, but those details will likely be disclosed by the time the law comes into effect this October.

Other changes including forbidding groups or NGOs from using any religious identifiers in their name unless permitted by the local, government-approved Centralized Religious Organization. The list of people now banned from leading or even participating in religious groups has also been significantly expanded

Unsurprisingly, the law was negatively received by most religious organizations in the country, with a notable exception to the Russian Orthodox Church, who supported it, according to Olga Sibireva, head of the Moscow-based Religion in Secular Society Project.

“Representatives of other religious organizations,” she observed, “consider the draft law a threat to freedom of religion and its norms as an attempt of the state to strengthen its ability to interfere with the internal activities of religious organizations.”

But perhaps the biggest problem with the law is not what is says, but what it does not say.

Olga told Forum 18 that, “The main problem is that the wording of the amendments is very imprecise and leaves room for interpretation. Therefore, much will depend on how the new rules will be interpreted in the course of law enforcement practice.”

In the days the Soviet Union, Russia was known for having some of the most restrictive limitations on religious freedom in the world. But after the collapse of the USSR, churches and ministries in Russia experienced significantly greater freedom and could openly practice their faith.

However, under the guise of fighting the war on terror, President Putin’s administration has overseen significant changes to the rights of religious minorities, whether by increasing the bureaucratic hurdles placed on ministries or outright banning certain groups. In their 2021 report, the U.S. Commission for International Religious Freedom renewed its recommendation for Russia to be listed as a Country of Particular Concern for its significant religious freedom violations.


37 posted on 02/12/2024 2:22:12 PM PST by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: reasonisfaith

Did you miss the part where I said “further conversation is pointless”?

L


38 posted on 02/12/2024 2:55:43 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Again. ‘’soviet’’ simply means ‘’council’’ in Russian.

Like the Nazis, who were Germans, the ‘’soviets’’ were made up of Russians.

They didn't just fall out of the clouds one day into Russia.

If it's one talent the Russian people have, besides getting blind drunk at the drop of a hat, it's refusal to take responsibility for themselves.

39 posted on 02/12/2024 4:25:25 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: reasonisfaith

I thought Soviets were Russian napkins.


40 posted on 02/12/2024 4:31:03 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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