Posted on 02/12/2024 10:02:06 AM PST by yesthatjallen
The premise of Wicked is role-reversal. Everything we know about the characters from The Wizard of the of Oz is wrong.
In Wicked, the green witch was really the good one and the white witch was the bad one (conspiring with the wizard to subjugate the people).
Everything comes to a head and the fallout is the characters that we know from the 1939 movie.
Apparently, it was the book's author's shtick to write prequels to famous stories depicting characters in "before" situations that were opposite to what we believed.
-PJ
Get a grip people. Who cares if the casting is colorblind? The original was made in 1939, during an era of segregation, where most people of color weren’t represented in film. Also a time when white actors played asians, blacks, and other people of color. It’s a fictional fairy-tale world. Why can’t a GREEN witch be played by an African american? Why can’t we reimagine a FICTIONAL world that has other people in it that aren’t white?? Our world isn’t just full or white people either, and neither is America. Who cares if we allow other races to be represented in a fictional story?? Seriously.
I don’t hear anyone freaking out about all the white actors who went blackface, or who played native American, asians, Arabs , etc. But you freak out when someone who in your mind should be white....but is played by someone who isn’t? It’s not like they are having Winston Church Hill played by a black North African or something.
This talk just makes you all look bigoted and plays into the racist stereotype that the left is trying to pain conservatives with.
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I know bill clinton was the first black president...so does that Hillary was the first black first lady.
Cause she would be perfect as the role of wicked gold digging carpetbagger witch from Chicago.
I also remember when RETURN TO OZ came out. Joel Siegel actually shed tears on his morning show talking about how they had ruined “THE GREATEST MOVIE EVER MADE” the WIZARD OF OZ.
Why is anybody concerned in either direction of the base coat of the person in the green makeup? Really guys, get over it.
Wicked had a number of road runs. Did well all over. Their biggest problem here is that it took so long. The iron isn’t hot anymore, 10 years ago it was probably a guaranteed hit. Now... as a two parter... Maybe, maybe not.
I understand the stage play was better. I saw excerpts of The Wiz play on a morning show years ago. It was not bad!
So they decided to make a movie of it and aim it at black city folks. a dud.
It’s, once again, “the fundamental transformation of the United States of America.” I am going to state, emphatically, that there is but one Wizard of Oz movie; and that is the original! You cannot improve on a classic. You just caint!
Saw Wicked and it was good. The music was lovely.
I can’t imagine a movie though. They will screw it up.
You complety blew right past and awesome broadway show “ Grease” and what about “rhpc”. another awesome film.
Of course that “one true” movie is based on a series of books, and honestly kind of butchers the story. You might not be able to improve upon a classic, but you can still work with the story in the books and not even really try to do anything with the original movie.
Itâs a different story altogether. And itâs been a long standing sell out on Broadway for years.
I saw it with Kristen Cheniworth and Idina Menzel.
It was OK. It wasnât all that woke almost 20 or so years ago. That doesnât mean they wonât wreck it Hollywood. And since one of the witches is greenâŚthat kind of destroys the âcolor codingâ people are looking for.
If they split it where the Broadway show splitâŚthere isnât much to come back for in the second act.
Captain Kirk will like it.
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Yeah act 2 is a little thin until you get to the very end and the fake out. Plus of course there’s the usual problem of a 2 parter. If you’re not telling a full story in the first one you have the audience leave unsatisfied. And in this modern world you might get a lot of audience who decides “I’ll wait and stream part 1 the day before I go see part 2”, then wind up with part 1 not making any money, and part 2 gets canceled.
Most people have already seen the play, so they know how it ends.
Dumb idea. This is why Broadway plays don’t translate to movies.
I said âsuch asâŚâ
I didnât name every single adaptation I think is decent, but theyâre definitely in the minority.
I did see a Broadway version of Rocky Horror at Circle in the Square, NYC in the summer of 2001. Luke Perry was in it and it was great fun, but it was not like going to see it at the midnight showings at movie theaters in the 80s.
Grease is OK. Not one of my favorites, though I thought the movie was good and well cast. As with anything in the performing arts, itâs all a matter of personal taste/opinion.
That reminds me of the satanists. They have the roles reversed — satan is the good guy trying to help mankind, etc.
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