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Star Wars Fans Explain Why Anakin Skywalker Can Never Truly Be Redeemed
GAMERANT ^ | FEB 10, 2024 | JERRY MACKENZIE

Posted on 02/25/2024 8:05:51 PM PST by nickcarraway

Star Wars fans explain why Anakin Skywalker's decades of evil as Darth Vader outweigh his last-minute redemption act in Return of the Jedi.

Some Star Wars fans believe Anakin Skywalker can never be fully redeemed for his evil actions as Darth Vader, even though he sacrificed himself in an attempt to make amends in Return of the Jedi.

Star Wars character Anakin Skywalker, once a heroic Jedi, fell to the dark side of the Force and became the ruthless Sith Lord Darth Vader, serving the evil Emperor Palpatine for over two decades. Though initially conflicted about his turn to evil, he fully embraced it and committed countless atrocities across the galaxy. This included leading a siege on the Jedi Temple and murdering children training there. However, when Palpatine attempted to kill Luke Skywalker during their confrontation on the second Death Star, Vader intervened, killing Palpatine and sacrificing himself in the process.

Star Wars Jedi The Force Overpowered RELATED Star Wars Fans Debate Whether Newer Films Ruined One Thing About The Jedi Star Wars fans debate whether the recent depictions of Jedi and Force powers diminish the mysticism established in the original trilogy. Many Star Wars fans believe this final redemptive act fulfills Anakin Skywalker's prophesied destiny to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force. However, on a recent Reddit thread, user eer2323 condemned Anakin as "irredeemable," arguing that killing Palpatine "doesn't come close" to atone for his previous misdeeds, including betraying friends. The user went so far as to call Anakin "literally worse than Hitler" for the scale of atrocities committed in service of the totalitarian regime. Nonetheless, other fans believe that no one is beyond redemption, even those who have committed terrible evils.

As user GAR_Figures commented, "It's fair to think this [that Vader cannot be redeemed], and that's your right." But they note that "one of the key themes of Star Wars is that no one is ever too far gone." Perhaps Anakin Skywalker felt his path was predetermined as a former slave on Tatooine. This may have initially attracted him to becoming a powerful Sith who controls his own destiny through the force. But in the end, he broke those chains of control and made an independent choice to sacrifice himself to save his son and defeat evil.

The last-minute turn from the dark side echoes similar redemptive arcs of other Star Wars characters. Han Solo went from a selfish smuggler to joining the Rebel Alliance and leading daring missions that helped defeat the Empire. Similarly, the character of Asajj Ventress began as a ruthless acolyte of Count Dooku but later rejected the Sith ways and found redemption through self-sacrifice. Both illustrate that those who have strayed morally can still choose to change course and find redemption, even if it comes at great personal cost. Yet whether this final sacrifice outweighs the numerous misdeeds continues to divide fans.

The Star Wars saga can be streamed on Disney Plus.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: darthvader; father; freud; hero; josephca; mythology; oedipal; pbe; starwars; villain
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1 posted on 02/25/2024 8:05:51 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It’s Kathleen Kennedy who can never be redeemed. :)


2 posted on 02/25/2024 8:08:28 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: nickcarraway

“Star Wars” is how you say “Idiot” in Klingon


3 posted on 02/25/2024 8:08:33 PM PST by Fai Mao (HeStarve the Beast and steal its food.)
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To: nickcarraway

May he live long, and prosper.


4 posted on 02/25/2024 8:13:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: nickcarraway
> Some Star Wars fans believe Anakin Skywalker can never be fully redeemed for his evil actions as Darth Vader… <

Meh. Who cares? The whole topic is a waste of time. I’ve got more important things to think about. For example, even after all these years I can’t decide. Ginger or Mary Ann?


5 posted on 02/25/2024 8:18:16 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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LOL! Definetely Mary Ann.


6 posted on 02/25/2024 8:25:55 PM PST by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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Ginger for dessert.


7 posted on 02/25/2024 8:31:47 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: nickcarraway
The Star Wars saga can be streamed on Disney Plus.

Nope. Absolutely not.

8 posted on 02/25/2024 8:34:31 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: nickcarraway

Disney trash..............


9 posted on 02/25/2024 8:34:49 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Leaning Right

mary ann hands down


10 posted on 02/25/2024 8:35:28 PM PST by moviefan8 (The noblest art is that of making others happy. - P.T. Barnum)
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To: Leaning Right

Mary Ann was a total Betty


11 posted on 02/25/2024 8:42:53 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Leaning Right

I can’t chose between them. So I have to take both!


12 posted on 02/25/2024 8:43:01 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s because he is black, right?


13 posted on 02/25/2024 8:45:45 PM PST by Yogafist
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> I can’t chose between them. So I have to take both! <

That would make the Skipper angry. You wouldn’t like the Skipper when he’s angry.


14 posted on 02/25/2024 8:54:51 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: nickcarraway

I just don’t care. KK has destroyed Star Wars as a franchise for the time being and only getting rid of her and Disney’s DEI agenda can save the studio. They literally lost money on every film they put out in 2023 and 2024 is going to bad also. Disney + is never going to show a profit by the end of this fiscal year.

Last night I was on YouTube and ran across a trailer for an old Disney film called Moon Pilot, 1962, I saw it when was 7. Well I have a subscription for Disney + so I view some of the stuff they have been putting I read about like, The Mandolarian, which I like.

Anyway you would think they would have the entire catalog of Disney stuff going all the way back to view. Well they don’t, some stuff they have and some they don’t, Moon Pilot they did not have, and I had to go to Amazon to see it.

They don’t have a number of the cool old stuff I grew up with available.


15 posted on 02/25/2024 9:05:55 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: nickcarraway

The only good Star Wars film put out since Disney took over Lucasfilm was Rogue One, now they want to get back on track bring that director back and leave him alone. Gareth Thomas.


16 posted on 02/25/2024 9:08:21 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To me, the first crack in the franchise came about from it’s biggest reveal: that Darth Vader was Luke’s father. And by the time the first trilogy was over, another fissure had appeared: he was Leia’s dad, too.

While I like The Phantom Menace, the whole Midichlorian/The-Force-is-hereditary introduced another and wider one.

Star Wars was no longer about adventure among the stars and its limitless possibilities. It hac descended into family melodrama with painted stars and pew-pew as its backdrop.

The original movie will always be my favorite of all of them because it can stand up by itself.


17 posted on 02/25/2024 9:25:55 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Forgot to add: ...And the Force was no longer something anyone could tap into with enough knowledge, patience, and practice. It was something passed on to a being and they either had it or they didn’t.


18 posted on 02/25/2024 9:30:27 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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I just don’t care. KK has destroyed Star Wars as a franchise for the time being...

Star Wars was destroyed in 1978 when they made the "Holiday Special".

Happy Life Day.

The Star Wars Holiday Special may be the most cringe worthy production ever to come out of Hollywood and the studio and producers were all on board with it.

Viewers can find clips and even the entire special on YouTube.

19 posted on 02/25/2024 9:33:47 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Leaning Right

I lost my picture of Mary Ann and myself from the 1990s

She still looked great 👍


20 posted on 02/26/2024 12:59:11 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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