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Metal Detectorist Finds on 4,000-year-old Dagger in Poland Forests
Arkeonews ^ | February 24, 2024 | Leman Altuntas

Posted on 02/26/2024 12:05:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: telescope115

What’s that other tool...for spackling...except it’s copper...so pretty flexible.


21 posted on 02/26/2024 1:17:45 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: marktwain

This article says they did.

https://www.npca.org/articles/2309-exploring-70-centuries-of-mining-history


22 posted on 02/26/2024 1:24:16 PM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Prolly some bricklayer from Lech Walesa’s Solidarity Union lost his trowel tool on the job.


23 posted on 02/26/2024 2:11:00 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Reily
This article says they did.

Says "they did" what? Here is what I saw in the article you linked to:

Starting around 7,000 years ago, Native Americans shaped the copper into tools, fishhooks, jewelry and other implements.

I have a friend who may have the largest private collection of old copper culture artifacts.

None of them were cast. They were all cold worked to shape.

Many people have wondered at the lack of smelting and casting technique. Smelting and casting requires the melting of the copper, so it can be cast into desired shapes.

No evidence of smelting has been discovered, or if it has, it has not been understood.

If it were used, you would expect lots of cast copper implements.

Instead, we see lots of cold-worked copper implements, and no evidence of casting.

24 posted on 02/26/2024 2:29:40 PM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: marktwain

Ahh I misread it!
Thanks for the correction


25 posted on 02/26/2024 2:30:53 PM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily
No problem.

I find the old copper culture fascinating.

They were so close to a true metal age, but they never quite got to being able to melt metal and cast it.

The Aztecs and Mayas were right on the edge. They were doing some copper and gold casting. Some of their copper casts seem to have been on the edge of bronze.

The Conquistadors had steel armor, guns, horses, plank built boats, sails, history, and superior religion. They offered the tribes who had been subjugated and terrorized by the Aztecs a better deal. The germs coming from the Old world proved deadlier, faster, than the germs moving from the New World to the Old (syphilis is the most obvious example). Christianity became more popular then human sacrifice and cannibalism.

26 posted on 02/26/2024 2:39:38 PM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: marktwain

Lack of ready tin resources would have been a problem.
I think lack of draft animals was a huge detriment to advancement.


27 posted on 02/26/2024 2:46:21 PM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily
The Incas new how to cast bronze. They had tin from Bolivia.

The Aztecs had some tin from Zacatecas, and early bronze artifacts have been in the Huastec area of Eastern Mesoamerica.

The American civilizations were just starting to learn to use metallurgy.

28 posted on 02/26/2024 3:03:38 PM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: logi_cal869

In the edit I took out the part where the finder recounted his initial impression that he’d found some debris from WWII.


29 posted on 02/26/2024 3:48:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Rio

That was before the advent of Copper-14 dating.


30 posted on 02/26/2024 5:13:43 PM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: SunkenCiv

Irony:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/unexploded-wwii-era-bomb-detonated-on-a-beach-in-belgium/vi-BB1j6GwE


31 posted on 02/29/2024 7:33:50 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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