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To: Apparatchik
Now you are saying I am Neville Chamberlain. Not even close with your idiocy.

No, I am looking at realities. Russia is not the USSR, Putin is not a nice guy, but he is certainly no Stalin either.

Your “peaceful resolution” is appeasement and rewarding Russia’s aggression. Pretty sad on your part - I’m guessing you never fought for anything in your life. Say it with me: Russia invaded Ukraine.

I've heard you all say that all along, and it's the only argument you have, however, you seem to ignore cause & affects. If we went purely by that as the method of reasoning, then you could say that the US was wrong to invade Iraq & Afghanistan.

So, should we condemn ourselves for those two invasions? Evidence clearly falls upon the motivation as being the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center carried out by Saudi Arabian citizens led by Osama bin Laden & Al-Qaeda.

Wars that are necessary to be fought, should be fought, but we seem to get in wars way too often. Furthermore, they become long protracted wars that take heavy tolls upon the American citizens, more so than the objects of our war.

Why is that? We finished WWI & WWII in a quarter of the time it took us in Vietnam, Iraq & Afghanistan. Because we had an objective & we went in there & did what was necessary.

President Dwight d. Eisenhower warned us of the military-industrial complex. Could that be what is really at play here? The common citizens seem to become more poor as a result, while the elites seem to prosper quite nicely, as the divide grows larger & larger & the middle class is becoming a disappearing population.

Road to Hunter Biden's Burisma riches was paved in Moscow with effort to court Russian oligarchs

Apparently that was taking place the day Russia went into Ukraine to seize the Crimea that Russia had originally taken from the Ottoman Empire in 1774 2 years before we declared independence from Great Britain. It was officially annexed into Russia in 1783. Nikita Khrushchev gave it to the USSR Ukraine. Perhaps because his long time girlfriend was born in Ukraine, even though he didn't officially marry her until 1965, to become his 2nd wife. He had been involved with her since 1922. Anyway, it is really unclear why he really did that.

Since 2008, Putin has been on record as saying that NATO expansion into either Georgia or Ukraine were red lines. You know, just as we almost went to war over the USSR trying to move into Cuba with nuclear weapons, I'm sure that Putin was trying to stop that from threatening his citizens.

A peaceful resolution would have been beneficial for everyone, but more importantly for the Ukrainian people.

But of course, the Ukrainian people were never the concern of people like you. You are willing to fund this conflict until the last Ukrainian falls into a dirt bed with no future worldly concerns.

Our desires & goals of this proxy war to attrite Russia's military capabilities are failing just as miserably as our conflict involvements going back to the Korean War. I'm not blaming the military for that, because the blame lies squarely upon the politicians.

Today, the dollar was the real source of America's remaining strengths, & the uncontrolled spending that has been occurring since the Clinton Administration has so eroded that, that there are serious attempts being made to dethrone the US dollar as the world's reserve currency. Already deals are being made to bypass the need for dollars in trade deals between two countries.

It no longer is a question of if, it's now only a question of when.

Enjoy what your country becomes, because it is already not the country I was born into at all. It only has a downward trajectory if we keep trying to be the world's protector, while ignoring our own needs & ills.

That's another reality you people seem to pass off as hysterical emotional reaction. But you are the ones who are are acting upon emotions, because your brains are not living in reality at all.

It has nothing to do with appeasement at all. It's just more propaganda that you fools have bitten into which has generated unfounded fear within you all.

We are the real target by external enemies, however, it is the enemies from within that will precipitate the fall of this nation. Once this nation is gone, all nations will follow suit.

Yet Another reality that just doesn't seem to register.

The EU is the US’s fourth top trading partner, after Canada, Mexico, and China, and it ranks ahead of China for buying U.S. exports, but sure, Europe is not important to us or worth supporting. Tell me again who the idiot is?

You are still the idiot, because this nation is more of a consumer nation than an exporting nation, and by golly by gum we have exported ourselves out of business when we exported our jobs. China has stolen most of, if not all of, our technological intelligence property, and the world takes advantage of us in the trade arena. Perhaps that is why we run deficits in trade as well as our governmental budgets.

And before you make some stupid comment that my criticisms mean I am for open borders - I am not. I stand with every other FReeper on this this site who declares the Biden policy as an absolute disaster and can’t wait for Trump to return to the WH and seal the border. So spare me your sanctimony and your name-calling.

Well, that is certainly encouraging, but that is a contradiction, because Donald John Trump would not have dragged this nation into war, even if Putin had invaded. He would have taken the time to work with Putin to see what is the problem, and why Putin invaded in the first place. He wouldn't have actually egged Putin into invading as this administration & the Obama Administration in order to wage a proxy war.

Furthermore, you are only making it harder for Trump when he does return to office. He will already have a lot on his plate & only 4 years to accomplish it, without continuing to put this nation into a deeper hole on several levels, one being supporting the confusion of a military conflict & our involvement other than seeking a peaceful resolution.

Hopefully, you will begin to understand that this is not appeasement, it's reality, and the course of our actions are not helping this nation let alone Ukraine. We are enriching the crooks & the bad guys, with our own money.

Wake up to reality, it often sucks. But keeping this conflict going is helping no one except those that you should not be helping.

20 posted on 03/01/2024 1:00:10 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
Now you are saying I am Neville Chamberlain

Why, yes - yes I am and yes you are. And an idiot to boot.

Putin is not a nice guy, but he is certainly no Stalin either. Yes he is - more of your idiocy on display.

You are willing to fund this conflict until the last Ukrainian

Wrongo. I am willing to support Ukraine for as long as they want to keeping fighting. And they do. But you cannot understand that, because you’re fat, dumb, and happy living here in the US and could care less about anybody but yourself. As I said - you have never faough5 for anything in your life. You take your own freedom for granted and start screeching when we help someone else. Was it wrong to push Iraq out of Kuwait when they invaded? Oh, that’s right: you think we should only secure our own borders and screw everyone else- what idiocy.

And as for your cluelessness about how economies and trade works, enjoy being dominated by China because you think trade with other democracies is meaningless. Idiot yet again - and a rambling windbag, too. It has to hurt for you to be this stupid. Your dissertation on Russian history was hilarious! A gift from Khrushchev to his girlfriend? Haw! 😂
21 posted on 03/01/2024 1:34:02 PM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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