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Electric cars release MORE toxic emissions than gas-powered vehicles and are worse for the environment, resurfaced study warns
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | March 4, 2024 | Nikki Main

Posted on 03/04/2024 2:11:37 PM PST by piytar

Electric vehicles may release more pollution than gas-powered vehicles, according to a report that has recently resurfaced.

The study, which was published in 2022 but has begun circulating again after being cited in a WSJ op-ed, found that brakes and tires release 1,850 times more particulate matter compared to modern tailpipes which have filters that reduce emissions.

It found that EVs are 30 percent heavier on average than gas-powered vehicles, which causes the brakes and tire treads to wear out faster than standard cars and releases tiny, often toxic particles into the atmosphere.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: automotive; electricvehicles; environment; evs; pollution
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This is a "Shock Report" (per Drudge) only to anyone who has no basic understanding of real science.
1 posted on 03/04/2024 2:11:37 PM PST by piytar
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To: piytar

Intended unintended consequences.


2 posted on 03/04/2024 2:19:17 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: piytar
only to anyone who has no basic understanding of real science.

Or, in other words, a LARGE majority of American people?

3 posted on 03/04/2024 2:24:33 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim (C)
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To: piytar
I wouldn't be surprised at all if EV's are worse for the environment than ICE cars. Especially if all things are equal (i.e. relatively new EV sedan vs relatively new ICE sedan, not new EV car vs decades old ICE pickup like the left often does).

However, I do have problems with these details:

It found that EVs are 30 percent heavier on average than gas-powered vehicles, which causes the brakes and tire treads to wear out faster than standard cars and releases tiny, often toxic particles into the atmosphere.

Our EV crossover weighs about 10% more than the ICE crossover it replaced, not 30%. Enough for me to do the math on tire wear to see if an EV was worth it (among many pro's and con's)? Yes. Enough for it to be a decision breaker? Not in our situation. Especially given that the regen braking seems to result in way less wear on the brake pads (the other part of the quote above that I have a problem with).

There are many valid arguments against the left forcing or incentivizing EV's onto people. And there are many reasons for a lot of people to not buy an EV in a free market. But the two points here IMHO aren't valid.

4 posted on 03/04/2024 2:33:01 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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The tires wear out much faster


5 posted on 03/04/2024 2:33:15 PM PST by butlerweave
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The tires don’t wear out faster. The only times I have replaced my tires were when I ran over nails and screws. Ever since I stopped driving behind the Walmart and Home Depot storesI haven’t had that problem either.


6 posted on 03/04/2024 2:36:24 PM PST by webheart
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In my experience they do wear faster. I love the instant acceleration, and the lack of fumes and noise, but I don’t think having an electric car means I’m saving the environment.


7 posted on 03/04/2024 2:48:29 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Tell It Right

Fair enough to an extent. The reality though is just making the batteries for an EV causes far more environmental damage than any ICE could. That’s not even counting when they burn. And it will be even worse when they have to dispose of all these batteries. That will be an environmental disaster.


8 posted on 03/04/2024 3:01:14 PM PST by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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To: Tell It Right

Oh and BTW I do not vouch for the article. Just thought it was worth posting...


9 posted on 03/04/2024 3:02:28 PM PST by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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We. Told. You. So.

10 posted on 03/04/2024 3:12:09 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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The issue is never the issue. The point is to make personal transportation unaffordable for the masses.


11 posted on 03/04/2024 3:16:25 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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“It found that EVs are 30 percent heavier on average than gas-powered vehicles, which causes the brakes and tire treads to wear out faster than standard cars and releases tiny, often toxic particles into the atmosphere.”

Tesla 3: 3600#

BMW 3: 3600#


12 posted on 03/04/2024 3:18:01 PM PST by TexasGator
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Yeah, people have been saying this for years, it’s just now the media has started to pick up on it.

The next “shocker” is that wind and solar are both net energy negative.


13 posted on 03/04/2024 3:19:48 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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“It found that EVs are 30 percent heavier on average than gas-powered vehicles, which causes the brakes and tire treads to wear out faster than standard cars and releases tiny, often toxic particles into the atmosphere.”

EV brakes last longer than ICE brakes. A problem with EV brakes is rust from lack of use.


14 posted on 03/04/2024 3:20:06 PM PST by TexasGator
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At least here in Illinois, electric anything indirectly mostly means coal burning.


15 posted on 03/04/2024 3:20:07 PM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: webheart

Who to believe? The thousands of testiments to excessive tire wear or webheart? hmmm...

But, for sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion. For my part, I won’t be buyong an EV so I won’t be able to say yea or nay.


16 posted on 03/04/2024 3:21:00 PM PST by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TThose look good)
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That doesn’t even take into account the environmental nightmare that results from battery production and disposal.


17 posted on 03/04/2024 3:24:44 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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“But, for sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion. “

That post was fact, not opinion.


18 posted on 03/04/2024 3:25:27 PM PST by TexasGator
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what if i told you i don’t buy electric for emissions, i buy it to go 0 - 60 in 2.4 seconds for ~100k instead of 1.1M for ICE?


19 posted on 03/04/2024 3:27:55 PM PST by BereanBrain
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what if i told you i don’t buy electric for emissions, i buy it to go 0 - 60 in 2.4 seconds for ~100k instead of 1.1M for ICE?

I'd say, OH I GET THAT. Off the line performance for some EVs is AWESOME.

They could actually make a market case for that. And I'd have NO problem with that. Their environmental BS is just that tough -- BS.

20 posted on 03/04/2024 3:34:14 PM PST by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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