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Southside never asked to be a magnet for solar farms
Cardinal News ^ | 1/30/24 | Dwayne Yancey

Posted on 03/13/2024 7:00:46 AM PDT by DallasBiff

The 15-megawatt Depot Solar facility in Campbell County. Photo courtesy of Appalachian Power.

When we turned to coal as our main energy source, in the 1800s, nobody asked the people of Appalachia whether they wanted their land mined to power the country. That’s where the coal was, and, one way or another, mining companies bought the mineral rights to it and dug away.

Today, as coal gives way to renewable energy, the people of the localities where those solar and wind projects want to go are being asked whether they want them — and many of them are saying “no.”

In the past year, at least five localities have adopted caps on how much land can be devoted to solar development: Buckingham, Henry, Isle of Wight, Mecklenburg, Pittsylvania and Surry. At least 10 counties — Caroline, Charlotte, Clarke, Culpeper, Halifax, Lunenburg, Nottoway, Page, Shenandoah and Southampton — have taken other actions to discourage or otherwise restrict solar farms. And a longer list of other localities have rejected specific solar projects on a piecemeal basis. It’s possible that these lists are even longer, but the shrinkage of local journalism means many rural counties are in “news deserts” so the actions of their boards of supervisors go unreported. Whatever the precise numbers, the point is that a lot of counties in Virginia are trying to erect barriers to solar development.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: solarfarm; virginia
Yes I am a bit ignorant about electrical production, but wouldn't a 50 megawatt coal fired plant take up the same space as this 15 megawatt solar farm?
1 posted on 03/13/2024 7:00:46 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

Food would be better but today that’s insane ,LOL


2 posted on 03/13/2024 7:03:00 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: DallasBiff

And this only produces in daylight and when clouds don’t block sunlight.


3 posted on 03/13/2024 7:05:03 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: DallasBiff
Many thanks for posting.
It would be helpful to include the state name in the title or the post. Cheers!
4 posted on 03/13/2024 7:05:13 AM PDT by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: DallasBiff

There is a ginormous solar farm south of Dallas on an old TXI mine. Crazy stuff.


5 posted on 03/13/2024 7:06:16 AM PDT by waterhill (Rest in peace Sadie.)
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To: DallasBiff

Climate policy isn’t about saving the planet any more than CoupFlu policy was about protecting public health.


6 posted on 03/13/2024 7:08:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: waterhill

Devious — put solar on top of ex-mines so they can’t ever go deeper or be harvested for coal again.


7 posted on 03/13/2024 7:09:24 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: George from New England

Devious — put solar on top of ex-mines so they can’t ever go deeper or be harvested for coal again.

Actually, i find it a clever option plan. When the solar panels die in 15-25 years, perhaps the nation will come to some energy sense and mines can be re-opened. If not, then it will have kicked the can of reclamation down the road.


8 posted on 03/13/2024 7:22:07 AM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: butlerweave

Food would be better but

Loss of agricultural land and production will be, somewhat already is, a serious problem.


9 posted on 03/13/2024 7:23:44 AM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: DallasBiff

What a waste of land.


10 posted on 03/13/2024 7:29:33 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: DallasBiff

Coal plants stand up better to hailstorm and tornados.


11 posted on 03/13/2024 7:30:05 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: DallasBiff

Wind and solar are great unless you have access to the grid. By themselves they are unreliable so you wouldn’t use it for anyone’s life support system unless you really don’t like them. Over 90% of solar panels will never produce as much electricity as it took to produce the panel. There is a huge problem with disposal of dead panels, batteries and wind turbines. Nuclear and hydroelectric are really the best alternatives but natural gas and coal are the best back-ups.


12 posted on 03/13/2024 7:35:04 AM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: butlerweave

A huge problem with solar “farms,” is the problem of runoff.
The grass under the panels die, leaving nothing to hold the soil. When the big rains come, the soil will be washed away as the grass roots that once held the soil is gone. If they do not engineer proper erosion control for this land then neighboring land will be flooded with mud and debris.
I really doubt they put gravel under all those panels, that would be cost prohibitive for the project. The photo indicates terrain change, and those hills will erode away without grass.....sad to be neighbors of these idiotic pipe dreams..


13 posted on 03/13/2024 7:48:05 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: DallasBiff
Put it this way; 15MW is 1000 x 15KW. The 1,700MW steam power plant to our NW takes up about the same space as this 15MW solar farm but produces over 100 times more power 24/7, not just when the sun shines. Just for reference, the national average home power consumption is about 29KWh per day (per EIA) or an average of about 1.2KW per hour. The little solar array, if it had storage, if the sun was reliable and if the sun shines half the day, which it does not, might power about 6,200 average homes.

I designed my little solar array on the barn for 10KW and it will not power the house for normal demand rates even though I can return some power to the grid. My point is that there is a huge difference in average power consumption and peak power consumption. It is a wonder the national power grid works at all with massive generation capacity, let alone with a bunch of candy ass solar panels and batteries.

Solar will not power a modern society such as ours. If solar is the only alternative we will have to seriously pare our life style or spend unrealistic sums of money to do it.

14 posted on 03/13/2024 7:48:05 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: DallasBiff

I always marvel that these acres of solar panels and bird chopping wind turbines never seem to get the same environmental scrutiny that any other project of this size seem to be given. Imagine you proposed a project were bald eagles would routinely be killed in its operation. There would be protests, lawsuits and decades of red tape all likely killing the project. Covering acres of ground with solar panels certainly must disrupt the habitat of insects, birds and small critters some of which are likely a threatened species so where are the protests, lawsuits and endless red tape?


15 posted on 03/13/2024 7:48:35 AM PDT by The Great RJ ( )
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To: 9422WMR

Could not agree more. This is a scam that would make P.T. Barnum blush with envy.


16 posted on 03/13/2024 7:53:29 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: DallasBiff

https://news.yahoo.com/schuylkill-countys-solar-surge-8-035900173.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABBjjWNKFl0yWgPdRm_wwoIMIKSm67BZ3CAXk5NtSKctpIGUyspae9u-fXWymXRU9oPTQg3oftQ5AUovfz16Km8enreou-kKsf7Mkwj7kRJ8sSN9Xycrmu-I0fN14WkPqSd_6QLRTIBL7L-D4hVJb9r7JfdiffB2RxeP0RknKRem


17 posted on 03/13/2024 8:11:50 AM PDT by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: yelostar
(Yahoo news link doesn’t work with paragraph tags).

Schuylkill County PA - and rural areas all over the country - are seeing an explosion of solar farm proposals. In many, maybe not all, the groundwork is being laid for massive energy-consuming crypto-mining facilities. This is being done under the guise of “clean renewable energy” - but it’s really about making lots of money for a very small group of (already wealthy) people.

Residential and business customers will not benefit from this surge of solar farms. Prices will go up, and the overall supply for residents and businesses will go down.

When do-goodism is shouted from the rooftops - you can bet that there is another, very selfish reason for it. And it’s always…always about the money.

18 posted on 03/13/2024 8:16:30 AM PDT by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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