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To: iontheball

“ Today you do not know what is being injected into you, whether it is mNRA produced or by conventional means. This concern applies to the lowly flu shot, to the pneumonia shot, or to any other commonly recognized injection. All this is happening at a point where the medical community, for good reason, has lost total credibility in the eyes of the public.”
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That’s exactly why I and members of my family will not be getting any flu shots or other vaccines - not unless we are absolutely certain that they are old style actual vaccines and not mRNA. Even then, I question both the efficacy and safety of vaccines in general, so I probably won’t have any more shots.

Oh, and Fauci and crew belong in front of an international court to defend themselves against charges of crimes against humanity.


19 posted on 03/14/2024 6:17:05 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Ancesthntr
not unless we are absolutely certain that they are old style actual vaccines and not mRNA.

There are lots of problems with the way "we" (US) responded to this, but two that deal with the vaccine are key.

1) Why focus solely on a vaccine? I read a paper on the progression of the Covid-19 disease, and there are 13 proteins generated by the virus. They have the effect of breaking down hemoglobin and preventing blood from carrying oxygen around the system. So, tactic one: Provide supplmental oxygen - do *not* put the patient on a ventilator, which toughens up the lung alveoli walls and further impedes oxygenation of the blood. Tactic two: Find something to break the chain the virus uses to break down hemoglobin. Chloroquins do this. The virus proteins have a greater affinity for chloroquins than for heme (the iron-carrying part of hemoglobin) so they get tied up by the chloroquins. No one in the US government *ever* talked about the disease mechanism - what the virus actually does.

A large part of that is because Fauci was/is a virologist, not an epidemiologist. He only sees vaccines because that's how you prevent viruses from gaining a foothold in your system. But treating the symptoms can be part of an effective counter to an epidemic.

2) Why use mRNA instead of a traditional vaccine? This is an enduring problem and I agree with you that mRNA vaccines are highly questionable. A traditional vaccine, using either killed or weakened viruses, triggers the body to counter all the associated proteins (in the case of Covid-19, thirteen of them). But a key issue is that viruses mutate. The mRNA 'vaccine' only triggered antibodies for the spike protein - 1 of 13 - and as soon as that one protein mutated (accelerated since that one protein no longer resulted in virus propagation) the 'vaccine' was no longer effective. Hence the need for constant boosters.

And that's even aside from the problems of RNA or DNA 'scraps' in the vaccine fluid, which can have an unknown but scary list of side effects.

This was always about public control, not about public health. Mandating masks (think - keeping mosquitos out with a chain link fence), and then multiple masks, lockdowns, denying the value of 'natural immunity', etc. were all about finding out how far they could push the people to do ridiculous things all in the name of 'public health.' By that standard, Fauci's 'experiment' was a resounding success.
24 posted on 03/14/2024 7:02:57 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: Ancesthntr

“That’s exactly why I and members of my family will not be getting any flu shots or other vaccines “

They want to start using it in the meat industry to vaccinate livestock.


25 posted on 03/14/2024 7:12:30 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Ancesthntr

“unless we are absolutely certain that they are old style actual vaccines “

But how could you be certain? Whom could you trust to tell you the truth? I wish I knew the answer to that. I’m in the “Trust no one” mode.


29 posted on 03/14/2024 8:11:37 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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