Posted on 03/15/2024 7:58:45 PM PDT by RandFan
“By far the biggest pushers of this TikTok ban are the ADL and other Jewish orgs. They are really upset what younger posters are posting and think.
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It’s all over Twitter and probably TikTok that it’s the ADL and AIPAC pushing this legislation because TikTok is 99% pro-Palestinian.
https://twitter.com/Cancelcloco/status/1768701232129220979
They even have a recording of that ADL guy Greenblatt or whatever saying TikTok is a big problem for Israel and must be dealt with. That audio is played at the end of the video linked above.
THIS is 3456789-D chess.
All they needed was bill to take care of tik toc. Nothing else. The republicans showed there true colors once again. Over all they are working with the democrats to destroy America.
Plus it’s unconstitutional so it’s likely the SCOTUS is going to overturn the TikTok ban. So the Senate may conclude that it’s a waste of their time.
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This will not survive a 1A challenge at SCOTUS.
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The Biden Administration can just ignore SCOTUS like they did with student loans. Who’s really gonna do anything about it?
HR7521 – TikTok Ban Assurances and Those Who Remember Patriot Act Assurances
Serendipitously, or not – depending on who you talk to, I was previously scheduled to be in DC at the moment of inflection for the passage of HR7521, the proverbial “TikToK Ban Law.” Allow me to encapsulate the issues and present the point of those who say there is nothing to worry about.
First, the context that should matter (it doesn’t because the USIC are in charge here) is that every element that preceded the passage of the Patriot Act is being duplicated in the passage of the TikTok ban. Which is to say, everyone is deferring to this ridiculous need to support USA National Security.
We The People have been burned by this approach before, yet so many refuse to see the similarity.
Second, the essential shield for those who support the bill [READ HR7521] comes down to the term “Foreign Adversary”, which is defined in the bill as Russia, China, North Korea and Iran. As they make the case, TikTok ban advocates cite the content or platform of the issue must originate from, and/or be controlled by, a foreign adversary…. so quit worrying.
However, the legislative language cites Foreign Adversary Controlled Application (FACA), which applies to content providers, apps, websites, social media and hosting platforms. This is where things get sketchy, because “under the direction of” is language that is included in the legislation, and the determinations of “at the direction of” are made by the Attorney General.
If the content, platform, website, or social media app generates content that is considered a national security threat, and providing information therein that is deemed to be under the control of a “foreign adversary,” it is the content within, not necessarily the platform ownership itself, that transfers compliance inquiry to the U.S government (DOJ Attorney General) for definitions.
If, for example, a U.S. company (think Twitter or CTH) is deemed to be providing information that is controlled by Russia, or actors who participate in the platform content on behalf of Russia (expand your FARA thinking here), then the U.S. or non-Foreign Adversary designation, may result in review subject to the terms of service as created and defined by the DOJ. In this example, the “Foreign Adversary” designation is simply a nose under the tent.
The DOJ, through this act, essentially becomes the overarching determination of terms of service (TOS) that can supersede the TOS of the platform or website. Want to fight the definition or determination… prepare to spend big money fighting a battle exclusively in the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, as that’s the only place you can appeal the determination of the govt.
As multiple people on the Fox News conservative side of the equation, and a host of seemingly oddly trusting voices who have previously presented themselves in alignment with common principles of freedom, all seem to accept the government would never weaponize this authority. THAT, I find frustratingly odd.
All of the totalitarians (bad people) support this bill, and almost all of the popular conservative voices seemingly agree with them. Color me frustrated.
I do not wish this post to be a bookmark for the time when “Itoldyasos” hold weight; but at this point, it seems like this is the only value in discussion. Too many people on both sides of the political continuum are in favor of HR7521 to seemingly stop it. Now it’s up to the Senate, who will find a way to make money from it and then support it.
Despite my pointing out that Joe Biden previously indicated how he would define these terms; [A conspiracy minded reviewer of the HR 7521 language should look at EXECUTIVE ORDER 14034] my reference point was met with crossed-eyes and the customary look as if a cow just licked them on the face.
(c) The term “country of concern” means any foreign government that, as determined by the Attorney General pursuant to section 2(c)(iii) or 2(f) of this order, has engaged in a long-term pattern or serious instances of conduct significantly adverse to the national security of the United States or the security and safety of United States persons, and poses a significant risk of exploiting bulk sensitive personal data or United States Government-related data to the detriment of the national security of the United States or the security and safety of United States persons, as specified in regulations issued by the Attorney General pursuant to section 2 of this order.
Look, I’m not nuts… and I understand how these silos of contained information work. That citation above, was created before HR-7521 was in the public psyche. What is cited above is part of a Biden intent to “Protect Americans’ Sensitive Data from Foreign Adversaries,” and it was updated about six weeks ago.
It is almost “as if” that executive order was updated purposefully to be used in combination with HR7521. I think it was. However, DC-minded people think I am crazy for using that citation as part of the argument about how the DOJ will define the terms in the TikTok law.
From my perspective, the two issues [HR7521 and XO 14043] are directly related. They both apply to the exact same issue. I believe that recent executive order was created by people behind the Biden administration who were proactively positioning themselves in advance of the new legal authority that was going to be provided by congress in the TikTok ban. But everyone tells me I’m crazy and asks, “How the F**K did you remember that?”
♦ If you look at HR7521 from the position of intent to control online information (not data collection), and if you take a more cynical view of how HR7521 is purposefully vague, and if you overlay how XO-14043 lays out the definitions that Biden will use, then you might find yourself more in agreement with my concerns.
♦ If you do not look at it that way, then yes – CTH is a crazy conspiracy website with a track record of predicting outcomes from a crazy conspiratorial point of view. Exactly the type of website that must be under the influence of a foreign adversary, an independent way of looking at the constructs of government that end up manifesting later in our reality.
I digress.
On the intent of the TikTok ban law, everyone pretends to forget the Patriot Act intent; I don’t.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... ssurances/
This is the pot calling the kettle black. They want the power to use communist oppression and violations to supposedly fight against communist oppression and violations.
Since the deep state is already deep in bed with China what is the difference?
Remember the Trump “Russian collusion” lie? This same tactic will be used against any app, domain, and even web hosting services they decided.
And I'll bet that all the neocontards at the time were attacking you as a muzzy terrorist enabler. "If you don't give up yer Freedom then Saddam wins. Derp!"
The glowie worms are crawling out of the woodwork again.
“If chicoms gathering data on your kids doesn’t bother you, you have some serious issues.”
If you believe that a U.S. government who is already deep in bed with the Chinese and are a bunch of pedophiles really care about the safety of our children then you have some serious issues.
Pure and simple this is a power grab over the internet. If you believe it is anything other you are lacking in reasoning skills. You are allowing yourself to be manipulated through emotion rat5her than reason and logic, this ignorance is exactly what they are hoping for.
If you think giving a tool like pedojoe the power to shut down any media outlet that his handlers tell him to, then you are horribly naive. Terminally so.
So they are going to hand it to Microsoft. Microsoft is ALREADY spying on American citizens and handing the data to China.
Anyone who uses Windows can never claim that handing it to MS is any safer.
“The glowie worms are crawling out of the woodwork again.”
Once again allowing themselves to be manipulated through pure emotion rather than reason and logic.
Once again proving we are our own worst enemy.
The word bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.
George Carlin
Bingo!
H/T to “Bratch” for sharing that this morning.
Did you read what I wrote at all? Did I say anything about what you kids watch or don’t watch?!? Ever
I said if you have no problem with the chicoms gathering personal data on your kids you have serious issues.
Please, all you are proving is there are a whole lot of fools on this place anymore and you are among them. Granted tiktok is a lesser threat than international corporations and chicoms buying up US farmland and various other means of domestic production in the short term, but no less a threat.
But I’m sure you are fine with the chicoms owning those too and able to shut down production at any time, just so long as no ability exists to stop it because it may be exploited as well.
Fools
At that point, it'll be obvious that Joe Biden is a "dictator" for ignoring the SCOTUS over TikTok. He'll be impeached for it.
What would be your solution to the problem?
It seems that most posters here on FR are arguing that the problem lies in that our government doesn’t really care about protecting the children. The ruling elite’s concern is to protect their phony baloney jobs and their ability to rob, rape, and pillage the American citizenry (literally) as well as the citizens of foreign nations (take Ukraine for instance).
Biggest fool here is you, fumblewit. Completely blind to the reality of the techno totalitarian state that is being emplaced by your pedobiden heroes.
Yes, yes, I who has spent 40 years in technology don’t know anything which I speak... It is clear that fool was a far too kind a word for you.
You are either utterly oblivious to what exactly data is these days, what is collected and how it is used, particularly out of these larger social media companies. You think TikTok, Facebook, Google, Twitter, Youtube, or any of your streaming services etc are just “entertainment” companies, delivering you a product and collecting data so they can put ads in front of you? If you believe that, you are in a whole other category than fool.
Tiktok is owned and operated, like all chicom businesses by a hostile government. They are collecting data, and data you wouldn’t believe about every single user on their platform, personal data, every thing you watch, everything you say, everything you do on their platform is captured, and used to manipulate and influence. Want to take down a nation? Undermine the family unit is a great place to start... start convincing kids their parents are the enemy, that they are not their bilogical sex, or whatever, and drive wedges and amplify ideoligical positions that will drive wedges. Collect data so that by the time 70% of American children are adults they know so much about them they can literally compromise anyone should they choose to do so, before they are even an adult.
You think I have blind faith in my government, because I can see the evil in another? Its not a binary situation you nitwit.
But keep on keeping on, useful idiots are needed for the globalists to win.. and as much as you think you are fighting them, on this particular issue, you are a willing dupe for them. Good Job.
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