The Curious Case of Hydroxychloroquine

Quadrant Magazine ^ | 5th March 2024 | Robert Clancy

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[Albion Wilde]

“The third insight came from a concern over conflict of interest created by grants and payments from pharmaceutical companies to investigators. Where authors had no conflict of interest, success for HCQ treatment was 86 per cent, while in those with a conflict of interest, only 5 per cent had positive outcomes.”

[Albion Wilde]

GassyDoc needs to read this carefully.

[Albion Wilde]

Excellent article ping!

[Albion Wilde]

Huge of amounts of money was wasted, governments gained more control, thousands of businesses closed up, thousands of people were killed, doctors were persecuted, and access to a cure was cut off...

But Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci lined their pockets, so quitcher complainin'.

/s

[Tymesup]

Note that people in Africa may get more sunshine and produce vitamin D. Darker skin may moderate that.

[Tymesup]

And no family admitted.

[Tymesup]

It’s possible birth rates will increase in response to population and other environmental changes.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

After carefully listening to and reading the rhetoric of Government and Pharmaceutical company representatives throughout the first month of the COVID “epidemic”, I came to the conclusion that these “experts” were conveying to the public via the lapdog news media misinformation that was misleading and probably dangerous. Ivermectin and HCL were condemned as useless and even harmful if used to combat the effects of COVID. Consequently and despite the derision of various family members and acquaintances who were pressured to get vaccinated, I sent a purchase order to India for the purchase of each of those medications, cost $90 total. Three weeks later they were delivered by the U.S. postal service. End of story: Of the 90 tablets of each medication I used 15 of each on two occasions when I experienced flu-like symptoms that I thought might actually be COVID. I was then tested (nasal and throat swabs), and neither test showed any infection.

[fortes fortuna juvat]

After carefully listening to and reading the rhetoric of Government and Pharmaceutical company representatives throughout the first month of the COVID “epidemic”, I came to the conclusion that these “experts” were conveying to the public via the lapdog news media misinformation that was misleading and probably dangerous. Ivermectin and HCQ were condemned as useless and even harmful if used to combat the effects of COVID. Consequently and despite the derision of various family members and acquaintances who were pressured to get vaccinated, I sent a purchase order to India for the purchase of each of those medications, cost $90 total. Three weeks later they were delivered by the U.S. postal service. End of story: Of the 90 tablets of each medication I used 15 of each on two occasions when I experienced flu-like symptoms that I thought might actually be COVID. I was then tested (nasal and throat swabs), and neither test showed any infection.

[Tymesup]

The shills tend to come to threads where they have a chance at successfully changing the narrative. They tend to avoid threads like this one with a compelling argument.

It may be that the first shill says, there’s potential here and posts something. The second shill sees a potential ally and joins in, frequently agreeing with them rather than disagreeing with someone else.

[Albion Wilde]

I guess it helped their company stock shares at the height of the hysteria. Thirty pieces of silver...

[imardmd1]

A great post, Pontiac! My doctors will see this, as well as my family and friends.

Thank you for your work on this thread.

As for me, since April of 2020 I have dosed myself daily with Quercetin Plus (quercetin 500 mg + vitamin C 1400 mg) together with zinc gluconate (50 mg of Zn).

The quercetin is an effective zinc ionophore replacement for HCD or ivermectin, which have to be prescribed,

Following this researched, tested, and recommended quercetin/zinc prophylactic protocol has kept me totally free of any symptoms of COVID-19, except for two days in January of last year, when I was inadvertedtly exposed to it from a car ride with a friend who had it. A test showed for that time I did get it, but because of the prerecovered very quickly.

Otherwise, no vaccines for the flu anytime ever in my life, and certainly not the fake ones demanded by government and the intimidated medical practitioners.

Now at age 87 and moving forward, un-"vaccinated".

[imardmd1]

You have a link to a medical research paper that describes this mechanism involving hemoglobin breakdown?? I'd like to have it.

The usual criminal activity of the virus is the release of "a storm of cytokines." about which there is no reference to blood cells and hemoglobin.

I wonder where the mechanism you describe comes from, or how someone has discoveed that is the cause of death from the COVID virus.

[imardmd1]

Correction:
HCQ, not HCD

[Phlyer]

a link to a medical research paper

I read it as a paper copy. The 'cytokine storm' is another disease mechanism, usually late in the cycle. But the paper said nothing about it. As I said, this is an early paper. As best I can find out, it appears that the cytokine storm is analogous to an allergic reaction where the some bodies over-react to something in the byproducts of the virus. That's not a good explanation, but it may explain why the paper said nothing about it - no hyper-allergic reactions by the time it was written.

One of the really, really ugly things about the way this whole disease was handled is that the death rate was in fact so low except among a very narrow subset of the population (primarily old, with complications from obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc.). As a result, when an unusual response (hyper-allergic reaction) showed up, it drove the perception of the overall disease.

But for most of the deaths, the progression was to lose ability to carry oxygen in the blood, which made old, obese, heart disease, etc. die before the body could counter the virus. The best treatment - which again, didn't always work on the old, etc.) was to administer supplemental oxygen to make it easier for the remaining healthy blood cells to carry enough oxygen to keep the patient alive. The worst possible treatment was to put the patient on a ventilator - which, by forcing higher pressure air in and out of the lungs toughened up the alveoli cell membranes making it *harder* to transfer oxygen to the blood.

But, your underlying point is still important. Whether it is the breakdown of hemoglobin as the paper I saw said, or some sort of cytokine storm reaction (possibly only in hyper-allergic patients) we still did not see the disease mechanism presented, with statistical breakdowns on relation to specific additional factors (e.g. heart disease).

And then there is the whole mRNA disease-mimic approach, which is flawed on so many levels that even telling people to do it should be grounds for prison time. But my postings are too long anyway.

[Pontiac]

Who is GassyDoc?

[Pontiac]

How about Ivermectin?

[Political Junkie Too]

FReeper gas_dr.

-PJ

[linMcHlp]

SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 - Instructive videos by Mobeen Syed, MD

Famotidine - Mechanism of action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtN0gwP16cc

HydroxyChloroquine (HCQ) - Mechanism of action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPCInuZjYUs

Ivermectin (IVM) - Mechanism of action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZoBAuR4ajs