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Victor Davis Hanson: Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens Do Not Represent Most Christians Or Americans On Israel
RealClearPolitics ^ | 4/10/2024 | Ian Schwartz

Posted on 04/11/2024 7:01:21 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Hoover Institution senior fellow Victor Davis Hanson on SiriusXM's 'The Megyn Kelly Show' addressed the divide on the right on Israel and called out Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens for criticizing the situation on the ground in Gaza.

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VICTOR DAVIS HANSON:

Most of the evangelical community I know is still very pro-Israel. I think what we're talking about is the libertarian, right intellectual movement.

I know that Tucker Carlson is voicing things, Candace Owens has, the CATO Institute's been very vocal. There's some people on that website who've called for breaking relations almost with Israel.

But I don't think it represents most Christians, much less most Americans. But I don't know quite what their argument is because I've seen so many of them.

It doesn't take a lot of brains to say “there's 500 million people in the Middle East and there's 12 million that live in a democratic government.” And that is the only democratic constitutional system there.

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1 posted on 04/11/2024 7:01:21 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

I love Tucker Carlson, but he’s dead wrong on Israel 🇮🇱.


2 posted on 04/11/2024 7:08:07 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: marcusmaximus

3 posted on 04/11/2024 7:09:36 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
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4 posted on 04/11/2024 7:10:57 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
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To: marcusmaximus; P-Marlowe

Anyone who doesn’t want to support Israel is ignoring that they have major non-nato ally status in US law. The US formally has codified our support for Israel, so claiming that they are not a US ally is simply wrong.

Also, those who ignore the issue of islamic terror toward non-moslems in and adjacent to their regions is being stupid about the islamic religion really being a political order that incorporates religion in its drive for conquest. Israel is responding appropriately to terror in their land. We wish Nigeria would do the same.

Finally, there is the spiritual side of this. Those who ignore the clear indications in the prophets that God will fight for Israel when they’ve returned to nation status after a 2nd dispersion 2000 years ago are ignorant of those things or are fighting God.


5 posted on 04/11/2024 7:11:32 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: marcusmaximus

Tucker might not be anti semetic but he would be what i call semetically ignorant.
In other words—he has no familiarity with the subject and should avoid discussing it.

And i’m curious if Tucker has ever done a piece on muslim persecution of christians. I doubt he explores that road.


6 posted on 04/11/2024 7:13:19 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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To: No name given

People easily forget what happened on 10/7.

I doubt that many if any of the hostages are alive. Israel needs to finish the job.


7 posted on 04/11/2024 7:14:46 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: marcusmaximus
Tucker is your Daddy.


8 posted on 04/11/2024 7:18:52 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
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To: xzins
1. Nothing that is "codified into law" ought to mean anything anymore. Support for Ukraine is "codified into law." U.S. military campaigns in Third World dumps all over the globe were "codified into law." No American should feel obligated in any way (politically, morally, etc.) to support a foreign country just because that country's lobbyists have managed to cut deals with U.S. politicians and corporate interests to establish business relationships that effectively become overseas money-laundering operations.

2. The spiritual side of this should have been dismissed out of hand when the first "pride" parade was held in Jerusalem, of all places. This kind of thinking looked particularly silly early in the morning of October 7th when Hamas mutants invading from Gaza were preying on "Jews" who had gathered in the desert of southern Israel for some kind of rave concert/festival on the night of a Sabbath that coincided with a holy day in the Jewish calendar. Israel is nothing more than a modern, secular, socialist state that is no different than its counterparts all over Europe. Some of us are as dismissive of Israel as we are of those other countries.

9 posted on 04/11/2024 7:23:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: xzins
Finally, there is the spiritual side of this. Those who ignore the clear indications in the prophets that God will fight for Israel when they’ve returned to nation status after a 2nd dispersion 2000 years ago are ignorant of those things or are fighting God.

Dispensationalist nonsense conjured up by a cult leader leader (Darby) and disseminated in the U.S. in the first instance by a crooked lawyer (Scofield). It's long past time for American evangelicals to grow up.

10 posted on 04/11/2024 7:26:03 AM PDT by DSH
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To: xzins

Israel isn’t an ally. The only time their military was involved with ours was the USS Liberty.


11 posted on 04/11/2024 7:28:44 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: marcusmaximus

Carlson has made some good points on other matters but he’s dead wrong about the middle east. We’ve tuned him out now, we certainly don’t need to listen to him or anyone else reiterating the Fakestinian lying narrative and all of the gross lies coming out from terrorist supporters like Biden/Blinken/and the rest of the communist-nazi Useful Idiots.

The other individual in the report we’ve never heard of.
Please see Victor David Hanson’s statement of today for some far more honest information/clarification. Thank you.


12 posted on 04/11/2024 7:36:40 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

13 posted on 04/11/2024 7:40:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: DSH

The Apostle Paul was a dispensationalist. Why aren’t you?


14 posted on 04/11/2024 7:55:29 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: marcusmaximus

every time I see a Jew I make sure to say to their face “christ is king”


15 posted on 04/11/2024 8:06:00 AM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: Jan_Sobieski; DSH
The Apostle Paul was a dispensationalist.

To what extent could Paul be uniquely claimed as a dispensationalist (as became only known in a widespread manner in 19th century America)?

16 posted on 04/11/2024 8:14:29 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: nikos1121
People easily forget what happened on 10/7.

Goebbels was right. Propaganda works.

17 posted on 04/11/2024 8:22:18 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: pigeoninthepark

You are back again?


18 posted on 04/11/2024 8:28:15 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: marcusmaximus

More anti Tucker post...

And regardless of people’s comments, Tucker did not say Israel is committing war crimes against Christians.

Prior thread
Tucker Carlson says ‘You’ve lost the thread’ to US Christian leaders who support Israel
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4230437/posts

Tucker Carlson, the one-time conservative star, turns out to have antisemitic feet of clay
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4230357/posts

It’s Official: Tucker Carlson is an Antisemite
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4230307/posts

What the Hell Is Wrong With Tucker Carlson?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4230290/posts

Conservatives Turn on Tucker Carlson
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4230277/posts

Tucker Carlson’s Adult Children Are Registered Democrats Despite His Conservative Views
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4230229/posts


19 posted on 04/11/2024 8:34:27 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: marcusmaximus
...But I don't know quite what their argument is...

It's actually very simple....You don't get to kill large groups of people to enact an ethno-state.

If we want to change all of the rules of western society and allow for killing large groups of people to enact an ethno-state, that might be something I could get behind. But currently that isn't where we are at.

20 posted on 04/11/2024 8:36:33 AM PDT by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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