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To: nickcarraway

The Allied forces. Ike was their general wasn’t he ?

His title was “Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe”


11 posted on 04/27/2024 11:02:24 PM PDT by RandFan
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It doesn’t seem like the U.S. won. Usually the losing side pays the winning side. The United States paid everything to rehabilitate Germany and Japan. They were forced to “protect the world,” and get the opposite of gratitude for it. The United States was forced to give up all their values and their way of life. It doesn’t sound anything like victory to me. I contend that the United States lost World War II.


15 posted on 04/27/2024 11:15:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan
The Allied forces. Ike was their general wasn’t he ? His title was “Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe”

Ironically, after that he was president of Columbia University before he became President of the U.S.

135 posted on 04/28/2024 9:56:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: RandFan; nickcarraway; metmom
[RandFan #6] The man who actually WON World War 2 became president.

[nickcarraway #9] Who do you think won WWII? I thought you’d be the last person to say the United States won.

[RandFan #11] The Allied forces. Ike was their general wasn’t he? His title was “Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Berlin

Battle of Berlin

Result: Soviet victory

• Death of Adolf Hitler and other high-ranking Nazi officials
• Unconditional surrender of German garrison in Berlin on 2 May
Capitulation of Germany on 8 May
End of World War II in Europe

V-E day is celebrated on May 8th, when Germany capitulated to the Soviets.

Eisenhower became the Commander of the Alied Expeditionary Force in 1944. The Soviet Union was not part of the AEF.

https://www.liberationroute.com/pois/249/u-s-troops-occupying-berlin

At the end of April 1945 the Soviet forces occupied Berlin, the capital of the German Reich. American and British troops did not enter the city until two months later on 4 July, the French forces participating initially with only a small unit. During those first two months, the Soviet Union was the sole occupying force, reorganizing life in the city in line with its own ideas and objectives.

The credit for defeating the Germans should go to the Soviet/Russians. The Allied Expeditionary Force was formed in 1944 as a British-American expeditionary force. When US./British forces arrived in Berlin. the Soviet forces were there waiting. The vast majority of German casualties were inflicted by the Russians, not the Americans/British.

Eisenhower bacame the Commander of the Alied Expeditionary Force in 1944. The Soviet Union was not part of the British/American AEF.

The war did not end with German surrender, The War in the Pacific carried on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_Japan_Day

Events before V-J Day (Victory in the Pacific, V-P Day, Australia)

On August 6 and 9, 1945, the Allies dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, respectively. On August 9, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan. The Japanese government on August 10 communicated its intention to surrender under the terms of the Potsdam Declaration.


185 posted on 04/28/2024 6:44:32 PM PDT by woodpusher
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