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Hmmm: Trump under 50% in poll of New York for first time this month
Hot Air ^ | April 15, 2016 | Allahpundit

Posted on 04/15/2016 10:42:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Via Red State, not a huge deal but worth flagging in case there’s another poll this weekend showing his numbers dipping a bit in New York on the eve of the primary. That would suggest a trend, and that would be a big deal given what’s at stake. To be clear: Trump’s going to romp in NY on Tuesday night, winning by 25 points or better, and will pick up something like 75 delegates even in a worst-case scenario. But since his path to 1,237 is so difficult, it matters a lot whether he ends up with 75 in New York or 95, which is what he’d get if he sweeps the state. Every delegate he leaves on the table now will have to be made up for later; finishing with 75 in New York means he’ll likely need to find another 10-20 somewhere in California on June 7th, where he won’t have home-field advantage.

The reason this poll is significant (apart from the enormous 14,000-person sample size) is that 50 percent is a magic number in New York. If you hit 50 statewide, you get all 11 of the state’s at-large delegates. If you don’t, the second-place finisher gets some of them proportionally. More importantly, if you hit 50 percent in a congressional district, you get all three of that district’s delegates. If you don’t, you get two delegates and the second-place finisher gets one. There are 27 congressional districts, meaning that the difference between Trump hitting 49 percent in every district and hitting 50 there is … 27 delegates. That’s a big haul and potentially crucial to his ability to reach 1,237. (To put it in perspective, Cruz’s prize for sweeping Colorado’s delegate elections was 37 delegates.) So when a poll drops showing him at 49 percent statewide, we sit up and pay attention. The margins matter on Tuesday night. A lot.

If we direct our attention to the figure above, we can see that statewide he is also polling at 49%, so whether he’s able to take the statewide delegates by “winner-take-all” rules outright is up in the air. The even better news for Trump is that he’s hitting the 50% threshold in 11/27 districts and is within three percentage points of six more (see figure below). Just by keeping 50% in those 11 districts and a plurality in the others, Trump would get 65 delegates…

Further, if we look at shifts between the opinion shares we observed this week (4.11-4.13) and compare them to our last poll (3.22-3.24), we don’t see monumental moves against Trump across numerous districts (see figure below). We do note a generally favorable Kasich trend of between 2 and 6 points in most districts. While this is generally good, these shifts are unlikely to change the order of results, and thus unlikely to shift all-important delegate totals on Election Day. In other words, while we believe Kasich appears to be making some progress in many districts, it is not enough to change delegate totals significantly.

If Trump were to finish below 50 percent in 16 districts, that’s 16 delegates going to Kasich or Cruz (assuming the second-place finisher gets at least 20 percent of the vote, which seems inevitable in a three-way race). That’s … not a great outcome for Trump. If he also finishes below 50 statewide, that would cost him another four delegates by Phil Kerpen’s estimation. The last survey by this pollster, Optimus, taken three weeks ago had him winning 15 of New York’s 27 districts with an outright majority, meaning that he’s actually slipped a bit this month. A few days ago, Nate Silver published a state-by-state roadmap to the rest of the primaries and estimated that Trump needs 91 delegates from New York to stay on the path to 1,237. Silver’s more conservative projections of how he might do there put him in the low 80s. Optimus’s new data has him in the mid 70s. If there’s such a thing as having a “bad night” when you win a big state primary by crushing your opponents, that’s what it would look like.

But look: How likely is it, realistically, that Trump’s going to fall short in New York on Tuesday? Optimus found 14 percent still undecided in this poll. Among that 14 percent, 17 percent are already leaning Trump — more than are leaning Kasich or Cruz — and another 59 percent are still making up their minds. There’s every reason to think the bulk of them will end up tilting towards the native son who’s on TV 24/7. His average in NY at RCP over the last few weeks is 53.4 percent, with one recent poll putting him at 56 percent and another placing him at 60(!). There’s every reason to think he’ll crack 50 statewide and plenty of reason, I think, to believe that he’ll easily pull 50 in a majority of New York’s districts. If we’re being real, there are probably eight to 10 districts where there’s some suspense about the outcome, and the only suspense is whether Trump will win them with a plurality or majority. If his realistic worst-case scenario is, say, 88 delegates, then he’s basically still where he needs to be to clinch.

Here’s video of Ted Cruz speaking last night at the New York City GOP gala and finding himself roundly ignored, presumably because of his crack months ago about “New York values.” Trump can stand onstage at a national debate and smirkingly assure the country that he’ll issue illegal orders to the military and still be applauded by his local GOP, but God forbid you insult their parochial community pride.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know they have proven how easy this is with video.


61 posted on 04/15/2016 11:32:30 PM PDT by libsdrinkkoolaid
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To: mowowie

I really don’t care.


62 posted on 04/15/2016 11:33:37 PM PDT by Slyfox (When someone tells it like it is, is it the truth?)
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To: altura

You happen to be probably the NASTIEST person on this entire site and you have the audacity to call others names??? Believe me people are very GLAD to have you NOT waste your time on them, very happy indeed to not have you ever post to them at all!!!


63 posted on 04/15/2016 11:36:07 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Theresawithanh

What about Trumps “Never bend to envy” Bible verse quote that doesn’t even exist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/16/donald-trump-likes-that-proverbs-verse-that-might-not-exist/


64 posted on 04/15/2016 11:39:40 PM PDT by LowOiL (In America today, it is considered worse to judge evil than to do evil - Burk Parsons)
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To: tinyowl

That is assuming NWO North America Union amnesty H1B muslim illegal loving TED wold be playing for our side.
i Don’t think so.
These deluded Texan freepers are so enamored that their “Conservative” senator is competing in this two man race for President they are absolutely Blind of this charlatans ambitions.
so sad....


65 posted on 04/15/2016 11:41:30 PM PDT by mowowie (`)
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To: altura

Have you even made the consideration that maybe your guy is a “is a complete fake and a con man”

Has that concept ever crossed your mind?
Yea we get it he’s your senator.
so what?
who is the narrow minded here?

time to pull of the blinders.


66 posted on 04/15/2016 11:50:26 PM PDT by mowowie (`)
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To: altura
Man, Trumps losing votes from his family and the people who work for him....,Trump’s special counsel advisor and Ex. V.P. of the Trump Organization 'Michael Cohen' can't vote for Trump! ....He's a registered Demorat....He also voted for Obama......funny isn't it that the Don has so many demo'rats' in his campaign.... His kids can’t vote either.....and Six former contestants from Trump’s reality show “The Apprentice” are publicly disavowing him.... Yet Trumpsters still can't smell a rat...and more evidence he didn't enter this race to win...in fact I'll say again he's looking for an escape.....that's why he's letting this go to convention, and not trying to play in the delegate game...

Watch what Trump isn't doing he should be doing..not what he's doing.....

67 posted on 04/15/2016 11:57:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: mowowie

see post 67


68 posted on 04/15/2016 11:58:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will throw this out there as i have thot about it. I believe that CO is the only state that is obeying the RNC rule for proportionate allocation if you hold a state referendum. I don’t agree with the decision. They didn’t want to do the proportional allocation so they suspended the referendum. PA NY and other states are rigging their allocations by not doing proportional allocation based on the statewide primary/referendum. just my thots. so all non bound delegates from PA and NY and any other state should be disallowed entry at the convention.


69 posted on 04/15/2016 11:59:15 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: altura

Ted Cruz is a “Cristian” for his political career.
His Princeton roommate claims he NEVER had a bible, never mentioned or gave reference to religion one peep.
didn’t have a bible, never mentioned god...unless he was talking about himself...
The guy is a snake oil salesman, a republican Barrack Obama and you fools are eating it up.
Yea he’s your senator and you have Texas “Pride”.
Pride doesn’t equate to naive stupidity though...


70 posted on 04/16/2016 12:02:27 AM PDT by mowowie (`)
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To: mowowie

I can’t wait until June 7 when all the remaining air is let out of the Cruz campaign. I’ve had enough of the TDS on FR.

The Cruzbots just don’t get it that all of us would enthusiastically support Ted if he weren’t proven to be a fake conservative scumbag. I started out supporting him, but got wise pretty quickly.


71 posted on 04/16/2016 12:04:57 AM PDT by orangeTank
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's hilarious.

Yeah, Trump's quakin' in his boots at 49% on a poll with 14,000+ respondents and 1% MOE.

That basically means Donald Trump has 50% locked down.

You better be more worried about where Ted Cruz stands in that poll: 13%, far behind even Kasich at 24%...

72 posted on 04/16/2016 12:06:27 AM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: altura

Hey Altura i would move to Texas in a heartbeat.
I love the geography of MA but hate the politics, government and 60% of the people here.
Living here doesn’t automatically mean i would drop my common sense to root for a guy just because he is my senator.
If that was the case i would have blindly followed John Kerry back when he was running.
John Kerry? yea right, i knew better....60% of my fellow residents told me i was wrong....was i?


73 posted on 04/16/2016 12:10:11 AM PDT by mowowie (`)
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To: caww
Knock it off!....you've been here long enough to know that without 2nd Division Vets work and posting all these articles for people to discuss we wouldn't have the opportunity to even post our opinions.

He's perfectly able to defend himself but nothing is more aggravating when I see people go after...'hard'...those who bring us the most her on FR! Every time he posts something you guys don't like you gang whip him for doing so....when you should be plenty grateful.

OMG! Somebody get me a handkerchief and give 2DV his GOPe "Propaganda Participation" trophy...

74 posted on 04/16/2016 12:11:20 AM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: altura
Please identify the person who is holding you at gunpoint and making you read 2ndDivisionVet’s post.

GOPe Spam is GOPE Spam...

75 posted on 04/16/2016 12:12:19 AM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's a CRAP poll, an outlier and your BFF Crfuz supporter buddies have posted at least 20 thread about this; probably MORE, articles and the actual poll all day and night.

But do cheer up...Cruz is doing TERRIBLE in this poll, as well as ALL of the other N.Y.State polls, at a VERY lowly THIRD PLACE, and shan't even get one delegate from N.Y. State! LOL

76 posted on 04/16/2016 12:17:08 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Catsrus
The one before this one had Trump at 62%! :-)
77 posted on 04/16/2016 12:18:38 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: altura

No you don’t and in truth, nobody gives a rat’s you know what about you! LOL


78 posted on 04/16/2016 12:21:41 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Slyfox

“I really don’t care.”
Of course you don’t.

i’ll keep looking forward towards your countless comments 18 percenter...


79 posted on 04/16/2016 12:22:20 AM PDT by mowowie (`)
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To: mowowie

The vast majority and yet, most of their fellow Texans voted for someone else in the Texas primary!


80 posted on 04/16/2016 12:22:41 AM PDT by nopardons
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