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Why Gary Johnson will steal more votes from Clinton than Trump
Red Alert Politics ^ | May 31, 2016 | Ron Meyer

Posted on 05/31/2016 2:43:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 05/31/2016 2:43:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Correct.


2 posted on 05/31/2016 2:44:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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How many votes is David French going to steal? /sarc


3 posted on 05/31/2016 2:46:46 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012 (q15.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Myth that Johnson is an anti-war noninterventionist. His FP is fairly status quo oriented:

“Fighting and defeating ISIS wherever they are is not ‘intervention’. It is stopping violent jihadists whose stated objectives are to kill Americans, wipe Israel off the map and destroy the very freedoms – including religious ones – upon which our nation is founded. It is protecting us from those who would and are doing us harm.”

http://ouramericainitiative.tumblr.com/post/133533479094/gary-johnson-isis-is-todays-nazi-fascism

He’s certainly no ‘better’ than Trump, and likely worse from a Libertarian POV as I doubt he understands the danger of internationalist entanglements; he is no America-firster.


4 posted on 05/31/2016 2:49:01 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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I take it he’s some kind of neoconservative?


5 posted on 05/31/2016 2:49:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Well, this article contains what has to be about the worst tag of all time:

“#FeelTheJohnson”


6 posted on 05/31/2016 2:50:37 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Votes for Johnson are not stolen votes, they are votes that belong to Johnson.


7 posted on 05/31/2016 2:50:48 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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Social conservatives would never support Johnson over Trump, because despite Trump’s checkered past, Johnson is still a current social liberal on life and marriage.

Most likely they wouldn't.

Neo-conservatives (like Bill Kristol and George W. Bush types) would never support Johnson because of his foreign policy. Trump, while far from perfect, is ideologically closer to both groups.

Not necessarily. Neocons just want to cast a protest vote, and the anti-Trump third party candidate who could get the most votes might win their support. In other words, they'd be happier if Gary Johnson got over 3% or over 5% than if their own guy couldn't crack 1%.

It's about spite and punishment for them. They wouldn't be unhappy with Hillary in the White House. And they reckon that Johnson and Weld doing okay at the polls (3-5%) would do less to bring about an isolationist Trend than Trump winning would.

8 posted on 05/31/2016 2:51:35 PM PDT by x
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Virginia poll: http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/virginia-election-poll052016/
Compares with and without Johnson.

Libertarians take more from Trump than from Clinton.
1 point from Hillary but 3 points from Trump.


9 posted on 05/31/2016 2:51:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

“The New Johnson”....It’s short, sweet, and everyone wants to see it.


10 posted on 05/31/2016 2:52:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

4 Johnson much of his rise in popularity will depend on how well he gets his message out.

Dont see the MSM giving him any help either


11 posted on 05/31/2016 2:54:25 PM PDT by jcon40
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MSM will be helping Johnson immensely, they need him as a spoiler candidate. And Johnson only speaks negatively about Trump, never Hillary. He’s got Koch backers.


12 posted on 05/31/2016 2:56:26 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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LOL, that’s why the Dems are pushing for a 3rd Party run by a Republican. Don’t kid yourself, there will be a lot of Democrat money going to any 3rd party run by a Republican.`The end justifies the means when it comes to the Dems.


13 posted on 05/31/2016 2:58:13 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (HILLARY 2016 - SERIOUSLY? What are they thinking?)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Hm...didnt know that... So this article is wrong?


14 posted on 05/31/2016 3:00:58 PM PDT by jcon40
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They may be a few libertarian-leaning Republicans too, but the poll show this group who would support Johnson isn’t very large.

I'd want to see the poll. If Ted Cruz is your idea of a "libertarian-leaning Republican" I guess so, but Johnson did best last time in very Republican western rural states and he'll likely pick up some votes from those states this time as well.

Sure, with Weld on the ticket Johnson is aiming most at social liberals who might otherwise vote Democrat. He'll pick up votes in liberal states like John Anderson did in 1980, but if Trump stumbles he'll also get some support in the west.

15 posted on 05/31/2016 3:02:08 PM PDT by x
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“This 40+ percent of millennials who are non-ideological Sanders supporters are your average millennials. They lean left on social issues, want a candidate with a vision for dramatic change, and are tired of war in the Middle East.”

In other words, goofball young’uns with nothing at stake but are willing to sacrifice some part of their bathroom priveleges to make the country a better place.

G_d help us.


16 posted on 05/31/2016 3:04:04 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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Votes for Johnson are not stolen votes, they are votes that belong to Johnson.

All three of them.

17 posted on 05/31/2016 3:12:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: jcon40

So it’d appear, given his statements on that link.

Realistically, he’s just another politician with no coherent ideology.


18 posted on 05/31/2016 3:13:56 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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To: ObozoMustGo2012; 2ndDivisionVet
How many votes is David French going to steal? /sarc

Who?

19 posted on 05/31/2016 3:17:03 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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How many votes is David French going to steal? /sarc

Who?

20 posted on 05/31/2016 3:17:03 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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