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Trump Continues To Have Staunch Supporters And Determined Opposition
National Public Radio ^ | April 29, 2017 | Don Gonyea

Posted on 04/29/2017 8:41:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Talk to voters across the country about President Trump's first 100 days in office and a few things become abundantly clear:

His supporters — those who turned out in force and voted for him — still overwhelmingly love him.

His detractors — and they are many, given that Trump failed to win the popular vote — are still shocked by his election and appalled by his behavior.

He has lost support, particularly among moderates and independent voters. That's a big reason that polls give him the lowest approval rating of any modern president this soon after taking office.

And, at times, Trump angered even his staunchest supporters, particularly the Tea Party, because of what they see as a tendency to rely on advice from top advisers they view as not conservative enough.

Still firmly in Trump's camp is 64-year-old Garry Frederick, who is about to turn ownership of the Top Notch Diner in Cortland, Ohio, over to his children. He dismissed the idea that the first 100 days is an important milestone for a presidency. Frederick says, "He's got four years," and he'll judge Trump when he seeks re-election. Still, Frederick says Trump is doing a great job. "I give him an A+."

Most days, Frederick joins a group of regulars for breakfast at the diner. Around the table, they see Trump's biggest enemies as the media and Congress, including Democrats and Republicans. During the campaign, Frederick liked Trump's promise to immediately repeal the Affordable Care Act, as well as his tough talk on trade. But the repeal effort failed, the law known as Obamacare survives, and Trump has softened some positions on trade, including a decision not to label China a currency manipulator.

Frederick says he's not worried, "I think he's working some back channels there."

Seventy-nine-year-old retired truck driver Dave Cover chimes in with, "There's several things in my judgment that play into that." First, Cover says, is that Trump needs China's help to deal with a nuclear-armed North Korea. "He's come to the conclusion that he has to deal with China because that's the only effective ally that's got any control over basically an uncontrollable entity over there."

As for the Trump opposition, it has not softened even an inch. They'll tell you his presidency has been exactly what they expected. "Chaos" is a word that's used a lot. Democrats found some hope when efforts to kill Obamacare fizzled. They've also been energized to march — in support of women's rights, to protest Trump's executive orders seeking to limit immigration from some majority-Muslim countries, and in support of science and protecting the climate.

But there's also the recognition that every day — sometimes with Congress and sometimes through presidential decrees — the president is rolling back regulations covering schools, businesses, fuel economy, clean air and protection of federal lands — just to list a few.

Barbara Babcock, a retired school teacher, attended a recent town hall in Flanders, N.J. She has her own short and to-the-point description of Trump's first 100 days: "The man is a disaster." Her complaints about Trump include what she sees as a refusal to deal with global warming or to take it seriously. She adds that "He has ties to Russia. He won't show us his tax returns. Every time I hear anything that comes out of his mouth I'm horrified. It's horrifying."

And her feelings extend to those advising the president. "What concerns me is how he listens to the radical right," she says, referring specifically to former Breitbart News editor and now presidential strategist Steve Bannon. She's also got problems with Cabinet secretaries — like charter schools champion Betsy DeVos who is now atop the Education Department and Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt, who as Oklahoma attorney general was famous for suing the EPA and rejecting scientific claims about humans' role in climate change.

"He has put in place people who will dismantle the very agencies they are supposed to be supporting," Babcock says of Trump.

Another anti-Trump voice, computer consultant Mark Zucker, was at that same New Jersey town hall meeting. He says it goes beyond his disagreements with the president over policy. "I have a real problem with a leader that outwardly lies, that does not concede the facts. Whether it's good or bad, we're adults in this country and we just want the truth, and I don't think we're hearing the truth."

Polls show a deep partisan divide in how the public views Trump.

In Amherst, N.Y., a suburb of Buffalo, Brett Sommer voted for Libertarian Gary Johnson for president. Sommer, who teaches AP-level history at the local high school, is an independent-minded, moderate Republican.

He says he actually likes that Trump does not seem to have a hard-and-fast ideology when it comes to the issues. And even though he didn't vote for the president, Sommer says he got on board after the election and was ready to give Trump a chance.

That didn't last.

First, there was Trump's habit of picking fights, and obsessing over the size of the crowds that attended his inauguration. Then, the personal attacks on opponents via Twitter continued after Trump moved into the White House. After that, Trump continued to hold big campaign-style rallies, where crowds would reprise a favorite campaign chant about Hillary Clinton — "Lock her up!!! Lock her up!!!"

Sommer said the rallies are clearly something Trump enjoys, but "I think he should focus on the governance of this country."

As for Trump's tone and unapologetic in-your-face manner, Sommer says there are boundaries involving simple decorum and human decency that Trump flouts. "I'm a teacher. I can't show up at my job in shorts and swear at the kids. I have to respect the position of authority I have," he says. That's how you earn respect, he adds, even if you're president.

"If you can't discipline what comes out of your mouth or, in that case, what comes out of your thumbs, to me that's a very strong indication of how disciplined your mind is," Sommer says.

Then there's the Tea Party, another category of Trump supporter. They are loyal. They are committed. But they are also watching the president's actions closely.

Tom Zawistowski heads a Tea Party group in northeast Ohio, an important corner of an important battleground state. Trump carried Ohio, in large part because he did well in some counties where Democrats typically dominate. Zawistowski lives on a small inland lake in a house that has an actual lighthouse built into the roof. He is a classic Tea Party conservative, but says he actually loves that Trump is not a conservative ideologue. "We know he's a businessman. We know he's a pragmatist," the 61-year-old small business owner says. "That's actually refreshing to us."

But voters like Zawistowski also have expectations — that Trump will pursue an agenda to the Tea Party's liking. That requires vigilance, Zawistowski says. It also means reminding Trump who helped him win.

"We knew he wasn't a conservative," says Zawistowski, "so we knew that once he got to Washington we kind of had to be the guardrails on the highway. He's going to be all over the road. We just need to make sure he doesn't drive off the road."

Zawistowski does express some dismay at the way the president attacked the congressional Freedom Caucus on Twitter after that group — unofficially known as the Tea Party caucus — derailed the Obamacare replacement bill backed by House Republican leadership and the White House. Zawistowski says it was a bad bill that was almost as bad as what it was replacing. He and other Ohio activists released an open letter to the president urging that Trump support — not fight — the Tea Party.

"We elected Donald Trump. When I say 'we,' I mean the grass-roots, core Tea Party, you know, -type people. We carried the flag. And we believe that earns us a certain amount of import."

That goes for White House staff as well. When Zawistowski hears that presidential adviser Steve Bannon may be losing out to more moderate voices in the White House — including presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner and top economic adviser Gary Cohn, a Democrat who worked on Wall Street — he says that would be a problem.

Tea Party support for the president is strong, he says, but not unconditional.


TOPICS: Ohio; Issues; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: protests; teaparty; trump

1 posted on 04/29/2017 8:41:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump you need to pay attention to your original voters.

I have supported your candidacy, since way, way before you announced your candidacy.

I have supported you all along.

But you really, really, really need to do something about bringing back American jobs, and you need to build the border wall.

Those two issues, are mandatory.


2 posted on 04/29/2017 8:53:55 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey NPR, how did Hillary fare against President Trump in the latest poll taken a few days ago? He would beat her by 3%. So your story line is full of it.


3 posted on 04/29/2017 8:56:21 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: cba123

He paid attention to them tonight and they returned that love in spades.


4 posted on 04/29/2017 9:00:45 PM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: hotsteppa

Just saying.

He needs to do something, for his voters.

We do not need his support. We do not need attention from him.

We need him to actually do something, about bringing back American jobs, and he needs to actually do something to build a wall at the border.

We do not need attention. We do not need speeches.

We need results.


5 posted on 04/29/2017 9:04:10 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NPR, of all entities, should understand that the presidency is never won on a ‘popular vote’. It is won by electoral vote. Our electoral college is one of the finest inventions of any Republic. A ‘public radio’ should already have that chiseled in stone in their charter.

Of course, most of the public who rely on MSM have no clue the number of bills that have been passed in the last few months, or even what EOs have been signed. What they do see is Dem critters crawling all over this admin looking for specs of dirt, while Rep critters are busy tying their shoelaces together, too skeered to understand what the term ‘offense’ means.


6 posted on 04/29/2017 9:07:11 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: cba123

If you think Trump has done nothing then you haven’t been reading FR for long enough.


7 posted on 04/29/2017 9:14:05 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: cba123

If he was not doing something for his voters and producing results, they would not have been there tonight.


8 posted on 04/29/2017 9:15:05 PM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: blueplum

I have been here since 2005.

I have been reading FR quite long enough.

All I am saying is, Trump DO THESE THINGS. Now.

Build the wall. And bring back American jobs.

Build the wall. Bring back US jobs. Those are two big issues you ran on.

Those are the biggest two issues, in my mind.

NEITHER ONE, is being done yet.


9 posted on 04/29/2017 9:18:06 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

But you really, really, really need to do something about bringing back American jobs, and you need to build the border wall.


Haven’t you noticed that he’s working on those two things?


10 posted on 04/29/2017 9:33:51 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Sort of, but I have seen nothing yet.

I support Trump. Very much in fact.

But these two are the biggest items he promised.

Just keeping the pressure on.


11 posted on 04/29/2017 9:36:01 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Thanks for the clarification and I agree. It’s important to keep their feet to the fire.


12 posted on 04/29/2017 9:38:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: cba123

Now? or what, footstomping will ensue? No Deplorable I know expected a wall within 100 days, or 0 unemployment either. ‘Specially fully aware of what jokers were in Congress and their pet NGOs on the outside profiting from human trafficking.

Trump said it will be built. Bids are submitted. Prototypes are in design phase. I think there’s 16 or 18 firms vying for a piece of the action. Probably 16 or 18 judges trying to block it, too. It will be built.

And as far as jobs back to America, there is article after article on FR of foreign companies setting up shop in the US and providing good jobs. And I’m sure the miners are delighted that China is now buying all the coal we want to sell them, and tech grads seem to be pretty happy about the end of cheap labor IT visa stuff; auto workers are pretty happy too. Downsizing regulatory agencies creates even more private sector jobs. I could go on, but you’d have read about all that.


13 posted on 04/29/2017 9:48:43 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Every time I hear anything that comes out of his mouth I'm horrified. It's horrifying."

I am affected the EXACT same way every time one of you criticizes what Trump is trying to do. The same thing happens every time a liberal says something about forwarding the agenda of the liberal, leftists. Sincerely, I am affected in the exact same way. No compromise room left.

14 posted on 04/29/2017 10:05:51 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: cba123
He needs to do something, for his voters.

Does your U.S. Congressman support the President on your demands? Do both your U.S. Senators support the President on your demands? If you're a voter who doesn't have these public servants working for your wishes, then you're not doing "something" for your President on these same demands. He is only 1/3 of a Government that needs to be fixed. The Stock Markets are at least 1 or 2 years ahead of any jobs that will be created, if Trump and Congress and the Courts can clear out all of Obama's regulations in time. As far as The Wall goes, Congress is in charge of funding it because it crosses state borders, and defines the Nation's Border. Even if the funds come from somewhere else, they have to pass using those funds on a Major Federal Project.

15 posted on 04/30/2017 3:54:06 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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“NEITHER ONE, is being done yet.”

They are seeking bids on building the wall and 500,000 jobs have been created in Trump’s first 100 days.

He is fulfilling his promise. It’s up to congress to make it happen.


16 posted on 04/30/2017 4:04:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Nuke Bilderberg from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Democrats have now tapped into the Final Frontier of voting blocs: the mentally ill. Democrats have come to realize that their policies of under-funding psychiatric services and constantly telling people the world is out to get them have produced a sizable bloc of people who can not only be used as voters every two years, but between elections they can be AstroTurf bodies to fill up the ranks at anti-Trump rallies.
It is not just a snide remark to say “The Democrats appeal to crazy people” it is the truth and it is by design.


17 posted on 04/30/2017 5:02:08 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He has lost support, particularly among moderates and independent voters. That's a big reason that polls give him the lowest approval rating of any modern president this soon after taking office.

Don Gonyea, and you believe the polls? Like the ones that had Hillary winning in a landslide. Fake news, fake polls.

18 posted on 04/30/2017 5:56:14 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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