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1 posted on 07/21/2018 10:52:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jill Stein was definitely an object of their efforts. Not that they thought she would win. Just meddle.


2 posted on 07/21/2018 10:56:33 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suspect they just want chaos for the sake of chaos.


3 posted on 07/21/2018 10:59:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope.


5 posted on 07/21/2018 11:11:16 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imo, the CIA did the hack & left hack fingerprints pointing to the Russians as the hackers.


6 posted on 07/21/2018 11:15:44 PM PDT by citizen (President Trump: HeÂ’s combined The Art of the Deal with AlinskyÂ’s Rules For Radicals. Game over.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Putin’s guys were organizing both pro- and anti-Trump protests after the election. You gotta hand it to them - there’s nothing the Russians do better than stirring up crap:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
[“After the election of Donald Trump in or around November 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used false U.S. personas to organize and coordinate U.S. political rallies in support of then president-elect Trump, while simultaneously using other false U.S. personas to organize and coordinate U.S. political rallies protesting the results of the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the Robert Mueller indictment of 13 Russian nationals charges. “For example, in or around November 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators organized a rally in New York through one group designed to ‘show your support for President-Elect Donald Trump’ held on or about November 12, 2016. At the same time, Defendants and their co-conspirators, through another group, organized a rally in New York called ‘Trump is NOT my President’ held on or about November 12, 2016. Similarly, Defendants and their co-conspirators organized a rally entitled ‘Charlotte Against Trump’ in Charlotte, North Carolina, held on or about November 19, 2016.”]

Now, the Democrats are getting all huffy because they see a stick they can use to beat up Republicans. They’re not really concerned about the Russians. Do you see them proposing a billion dollar lethal aid bill for Ukraine? No. Do you see them looking to increase our nuclear missile force to deal with the Putin’s expansion of the Russian missile arsenal? No.


8 posted on 07/21/2018 11:49:43 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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> “Did the Russians Hack the DNC to Help Bernie Sanders and the Socialist Left?”

No.

I appreciate and admire Daniel’s perspectives, passion, and writing ability but this headline question is completely out of sync with reality.

Daniel should not wade into this CIA/FBI clusterf*ck. They are spewing disinformation left and right trying to confuse everyone and convince people that Trump needs to be removed because Trump is going to remove them.

For those coming up to speed, the Rothschild empire has been executing a slow takeover of the United States spanning decades. Trump and MI/NSA are reversing their advance. and the entire Mocking Bird Media is slamming Trump 24/7 to try to stop him and those behind him.

This is war.

If anyone has heard recently in their community. on television, in social media, among neighbors, friends, family, words to the effect “I’ve never seen anything like this before”, those words are true. We are witnessing, like watching a movie, a war play out in the media. There is also a war in the background. At least a dozen assassination attempts have been launched against the President.

In a nutshell, there were terabytes of data that were taken from servers of democrats and also phones. They were not taken directly by Russians over the internet. It would be like sucking an elephant through a straw.

The Russians AND THE CHINESE used an inside contact to get the data and then pipe it to spies who were set up INSIDE THE UNITED STATES with trunk lines.

Who was the contact that executed the inside job?

Imran Awan.

Why was Seth Rich murdered?

Because he caught on to what Imran was doing.

Imran had ties to MS-13. (documented)

Seth was murdered by MS-13.

Now, look at this one week old George Webb video (14 minutes) that details what went down:
https://youtu.be/ASKgsVgERpU?t=1851

Then a MUST-SEE is a larger historical perspective, watch ALL of this video by a fine Christ8an ‘Blessed To Teach’. He stumbles sometimes with words but his information and perspective are good and pure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3KBDpKo3kg


9 posted on 07/22/2018 12:14:11 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Daniel> You are scaring me because you are making sense about something that has been twisted and diverted, namely who and why was the DNC computers hacked in the first place.

The Lunatic Left is the main winner. Hillary the Clueless is the main loser, and Trump is caught in the middle by the Mueller/Strzok/Page/McCabe/Comey Deep Intelligence State and the hardcore Marxist “Obama Deep State”.

If the Russians are responsible for the DNC hacking and some of the Steele Dossier damage to Trump, then Putin and the boys have really done a great job of covert subversion and disinformation.

But them again, the congressional Democrats NEVER seriously looked into an Communist/Soviet/Russian/Cuban etc espionage and subversion since the 1970’s. They had destroyed almost all of Congress’s internal security committees/subcommittees (SPCUA,HCUA, HISC, SISS, SACB - US govt operation and parts of the FBI and CIA counter-intelligence organizations (i.e. thru the Church Committee, the Pike Committee, Boland Committee later one, Kerry’s Subcom. on Latin America, etc).

Right now there are more “reds” in Congress than ever before (a few old Communist Party “friends”; Democratic Socialists of America - the majority faction in the Progressive Democrats Caucus and Black Congressional Caucus; a couple supporters of Red China including Judy Chu - formerly of the maost Communist Workers Party; and a few oddballs who support a lot of far-left groups.

IF what you, Daniel, have written is true, then the next hit Moscow Square entertain show will be entitled “Putin On the Blitz”, akin to “Springtime for Hitler and Germany” of “The Producers”.

However, it will be nothing to laugh at.


10 posted on 07/22/2018 12:57:33 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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“There has never been any evidence that the DNC hacks swung the election.”

Then why are we still discussing this?


11 posted on 07/22/2018 1:04:13 AM PDT by McGruff (We want very much to have a strong Russia - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For the umpti-umpth time, the DNC server was not hacked.

Multiple forensic IT examinations of the Wikileaks files dumped from the DNC server by qualified experts including those at the NSA (per the now retired head of NSA Digital Services) found that the time stamps between sequential file downloads show the file dumps were downloaded from the server at a speed of ~49MegaBytes per second. Multiple tests across the Internet backbone using the fastest routes possible to points external over the internet succeeded in only achieving ~12.5 Megabytes per second maximum transfer rates.

The only way to achieve 49 MegaByte transfers was using a directly connected Solid State device such as a Flash Drive or Thumb Drive attached to the DNC server’s USB port. Ergo, it was not a remote hack but an inside theft by someone who had password access to these data!

12 posted on 07/22/2018 1:29:39 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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The “ Russians” did not “ hack” the DNC. The truthful emails , revealing the corrupt and rigged party nomination process we obtained by Wikileaks from a thumb drive because the data was 3 times too large to move over the Internet .


13 posted on 07/22/2018 1:55:15 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.ith the solar)
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Well.... If they did.... They did a pretty lousy job of it.


15 posted on 07/22/2018 3:03:28 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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How does anyone know who, or if, the DNC server was hacked if it wasn’t examined? The most vital piece of forensic evidence in this entire Russian hoax is missing and people should take absurd articles like this seriously?


18 posted on 07/22/2018 4:51:23 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There was no outside hack by anyonne of the DNC.

His name was Seth Rich


19 posted on 07/22/2018 5:33:22 AM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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I don't believe Russia IS truly done with communism.

How Russia arms America’s southern neighbors

Ioan Grillo
May 9, 2014

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil — Russia’s push into Ukraine has put many on edge. But less known is that Russia is also strengthening its military links south of the Rio Grande and re-establishing itself as a power in the region.

Vladimir Putin has been strengthening military links here, and Russia is now the largest arms dealer to governments in Latin America, surpassing the United States.

Russia has even floated the possibility of building new military bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and putting its warships permanently in the Caribbean.

In the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Russia’s top diplomat Sergei Lavrov recently visited Cuba, Peru, Chile, and Nicaragua, where he announced that Russia would also pour money into the new Central American canal project. ...”

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/140508/russian-arms-military-trade-latin-america
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Russia Boosts Arms, Training for Leftist Latin Militaries

Moscow defense minister inks deals with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua for joint exercises

BY: Bill Gertz
February 20, 2015

Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscow’s Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.

Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb. 11 to 14. It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.

Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-boosts-arms-training-for-leftist-latin-militaries/

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KGB/FSB Putin wants a ‘unified Korea’...under communist NK rule

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Russia and North Korea declare 2015 a ‘year of friendship’
“The biggest cause for concern is the growing military alliance between Russia and North Korea, with the two regimes recently announcing plans to conduct a series of joint army, navy and air force exercises this year.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11463265/Russia-and-North-Korea-declare-2015-a-year-of-friendship.html

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Russia steps up North Korea support to constrain US
May 17, 2017
“Despite efforts by the United Nations to impose isolating sanctions on North Korea in response to the country’s continued development of nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, trade between Russia and North Korea soared more than 85 percent in the first four months of the year.”

http://www.dw.com/en/russia-steps-up-north-korea-support-to-constrain-us/a-38867861

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Sept 5, 2017

North Korea nuclear crisis: Putin calls sanctions useless
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said pursuing further sanctions against North Korea is “useless”, saying “they’d rather eat grass than give up their nuclear programme”.
The US said on Monday it would table a new UN resolution on tougher sanctions in the wake of the latest test of a nuclear bomb by the North on Sunday.

Mr Putin also said that the ramping up of “military hysteria” could lead to global catastrophe.

He said diplomacy was the only answer.

China, the North’s main ally, has also called for a return to negotiations. ...”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41158281

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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
“The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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“Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants.”

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance

22 posted on 07/22/2018 6:28:24 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Something to consider as a definite possibility...

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Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew

In a [] 1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."

"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."

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"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html
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Link to read "New Lies for Old" online:
https://archive.org/details/GolitsynAnatoleTheNewLiesForOldOnes
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Link to read "The Perestroika Deception" online:
https://archive.org/details/pdfy-TVvzZzfXiMBkMdvD
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"Gentlemen, Comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about glasnost and perestroika and democracy in the coming years.

These are primarily for outward consumption.

There will be no significant internal change within the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes.

Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep".

-- Mikhial Gorbachev, former President of the Soviet Union, to the Politburo in November of 1987.




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America’s Coming Crisis: Prophetic Warnings, Divine Destiny
By David N. Balmforth

23 posted on 07/22/2018 6:28:32 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stupid conspiracy theory.

The right wing russophobe nuts are as crazy as their left-wing counterparts, and even more stupid.


24 posted on 07/22/2018 6:58:39 AM PDT by granada
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I have to say, that Russia helping Bernie Sanders to disrupt the US Elections seems to fit the most logically in what they have always done.


35 posted on 07/22/2018 8:49:16 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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"Did the Russians Hack the DNC to Help Bernie Sanders and the Socialist Left?

Near as I can tell there is no proof that the Russians hack ANYTHING..!!

39 posted on 07/22/2018 9:09:12 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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I probably won’t go so far as to say they hacked the server (though only because they technically don’t even NEED to hack the servers remotely, just steal the information via one of their plants). However, I have little doubt that they would at the very least be involved in these actions, or that they did it to back Bernie Sanders (I doubt they did it for Trump, especially when someone like Putin wouldn’t want America restored).


46 posted on 07/22/2018 11:14:37 AM PDT by otness_e
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