Posted on 11/09/2023 1:02:40 PM PST by entropy12
Everybody here is overcomplicating this.
Laws against third trimester and partial birth abortions can be easily passed, and with Roe gone, can be easily enforced.
Most voters, however, will defeat candidates, parties, movements, tendencies, etc that even HINT that they might restrict early (<13 week) abortions.
What these elections and ballot questions are about is this:
Q: “If, in order to prevent a law from being passed now or in the future that would restrict first-trimester abortions, do you favor a State Constitutional Amendment to guarantee a right to abortion?
Huge majorities will answer “Yes” to a question phrased that way, and it is that phrasing that every Democrat wants to run on next year.
What Republicans want is unclear.
This statement isn't really true. He didn't make "protecting abortion rights central"... he just ran ads pointing out that the existing Ky law has NO exceptions for rape for incest. All he did was get women motivated to come vote.
Beshear can't do anything to change the laws in Ky, and he has never made an effort to do it.
Totally ridiculous.
But since when has dealing with women been logical and rational?
Someone please explain why the GOP thinks they have the right to tell women in this country what they can or cannot do with their bodies and/or their babies? Why is it anybody’s business in a country that is supposed to be free?
To say that we know better and women cannot chose for themselves is really an elitist position and very ignorant of other people’s intelligence or lack of. This holier than thou
attitude drives people away and the stupid GOP is full of it.
After being on both sides of this abortion issue I think the best way forward is to quit telling people how to live their lives.
Get abortion out of politics, it doesn’t belong there.
Ok so I went and looked up some research
https://lozierinstitute.org/questions-and-answers-on-late-term-abortion/
“...the authors acknowledge that “data suggests that most women seeking later terminations are not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment.” Using interviews and questionnaires, the authors compared 272 women who obtained abortions at or after 20 weeks with 169 women who had abortions prior to 20 weeks and found that the rationales cited by the two groups were essentially the same – stressful circumstances of unprepared pregnancy, single-motherhood, financial pressure, and relationship discord. “
You also have women aborting when they get test results showing potential birth defects
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10426234/
I know that this will be poo pooed by most but to me and to God it means that there is No Time in the formation of life that it so unimportant that it’s okay to kill it!
Psalm 139:16
Your eyes saw even the embryo of me, And in your book all its parts were down in writing, As regards the days when they were formed And there was not yet one among them.
After seeing some special elections being won by democrats this week, just because they support abortion well ...
I have to say, “I really don’t give a damn anymore!”
In a country where the majority of the people think that the most important issue to hang your vote on is .. murdering the unborn, there is nothing more to say except ...TO HELL WITH THEM!
I don’t say this flippantly.
I have loved one’s who will be here after I have gone and my sadness for them knows no bounds!
I fought, not only overseas for this country but at the ballot boxes for years, both wasted!
I am a patriot with 2 tours of southeast Asia under my belt, even I must admit, while we have been fighting Overseas, The left has been fighting and winning Over Here!
I guess it’s time to embrace the slaughter.
Bumper sticker: “free abortions for all liberals and POCs.”
Perhaps not, but for those who do support abortion, it is as powerful of a motivator to get to the polls and vote as MAGA is, maybe even more so.
Overall, turnout on Tuesday was 30% of eligible voters. Abortion rights motivated more Dems than Republicans in key states.
And like it or not, the fact of the matter remains that this was also true in 2022.
Fear of abortion bans is a powerful Democrat motivator.
I think we should concede and agree to abort all liberals. Obviously not during the first 9 months but a late term abortion around the time they graduate college.
“It never occurs to them to argue and promote using birth control, abstaining and all the things that you can do to not be put in this situation.”
The issue for them is what do they do when they don’t do those things (which has happened millions of times and always will), or those things don’t work (I know, abstention is the one that always works). In that case they want options, which includes abortion - and I don’t see that changing to any meaningful (i.e., election outcome-altering) degree. The genie is WAY out of the bottle.
“ Right or Wrong, it’s a loser politically. Most women are single issue voters on this.”
When a full third to half of women think that abortion is a first and only issue, in spite of Bidenomics and everything else Democrat Disaster, any purple state will give blue results, and any red will go purple. FACT.
Neal Boortz had been an inspiration to me for my thoughts on abortion.
“For the record: I still believe that abortion, under certain circumstances, should be legal, but not as a means of contraception. Plus, the parameters should be set by the states, not the Federal Govt.”
Yes abortion are murders, and murders still happen every day everywhere.
Freeptards have no trouble posting #MSM articles that bear NO relation to the truth.
This garbage suggests there was an pro-abort amendment in, for instance, Kentucky, when there was not, and not only was there no such amendment, but best of luck getting an abortion in Kentucky, I'm rooting for you!
Kentucky Supreme Court ruling allows state’s near-total abortion bans to remain in place for nowCNN — "The Supreme Court of Kentucky ruled Thursday that a lower court wrongfully stopped the enforcement of two state abortion laws, according to court documents.
The two measures are Kentucky’s so-called trigger law banning the procedure and a separate “heartbeat” law restricting abortions at around six weeks of pregnancy.
Siding with Republican Attorney General Daniel Cameron, Justice Debra Hembree Lambert asserted in her opinion that the circuit court “abused its discretion by granting abortion provider’s motion for a temporary injunction.”
(1) Republicans don't know how to make a sale.
-While Republican candidates talk about principles, Democrats are better at sales talk.
(2) Republicans are divided.
-The Dems stick together and vote their party. To the Dems, it's all about advancing the party, no matter who the candidate is.
-GOP voters are more individualistic. We fight with each other. Some will stay home if they don't like a candidate.
(3) The Democrats are willing to cheat.
The GOP could sell the pro-life position with different rhetoric, but they're not willing to do that. And so, here we are.
“ It’s not about abortion.”
It’s about an evil party finding a path to power. Just like racism, etc.
unfortunately, some citizens refuse to understand the great pleasure it gives some to experience the joy of having a pregnancy aborted. Especially now, as in Ohio, where the baby can be killed at birth.
Shame on those who would side with the unborn as it has no knowledge of what they’re doing to it. It can only cry in a feeble small voice. It can just die thereby pleasing the vast left wing of the country.
Fortunately, the body parts and organs can be utilized to further the lives of fat-assed liberal beings who would gladly eat the unborn for breakfast...like Hitlery Klinton and Nancy Pelousy.
Just another step on the way to hell.
“It wasn’t all, or even mostly, election fraud. I have met LOTS of suburban women who are as adamant about keeping abortion rights as I am about gun rights.”
The abortion issue alone is enough to affect election outcomes. It’s THAT important to them. I know women who are conservative or conservation-leaning on other issues who will vote Dem 100% of the time if they perceive the “right to choose” is in jeopardy. As you said, “ignore them at your peril”.
“What these elections and ballot questions are about is this:
Q: “If, in order to prevent a law from being passed now or in the future that would restrict first-trimester abortions, do you favor a State Constitutional Amendment to guarantee a right to abortion?
Huge majorities will answer “Yes” to a question phrased that way, and it is that phrasing that every Democrat wants to run on next year.”
Exactly, and that’s how they successfully play the game.
FDR stomped four dull Rino’s before women got the death desire. Clinton said him and the gang of shrews elected to the senate in the “year of the woman” back in 1992 was because of abortion. Can they please get another reason for winning every single election? Democrats are the national dynasty. We get it.
Abortion rights isn’t a major issue it’s just some looking for a free tax payer paid abortion the real issue is all the chaos the democrat party has caused over the last three years.
It won’t go unnoticed in the presidential election and a lot of democrat purging will be noticed.
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