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Why Have Pointless Republican Debates When Trump Is Going to Win?
PJ Media ^ | 12/07/2023 | Jon Del Arroz

Posted on 12/07/2023 8:36:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Several presidential hopefuls had a fourth presidential debate last night at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa. The debate was held on a site, NewsNation, which, despite hiring a high-profile newscaster like Megyn Kelly, many people hadn't heard of before the night. Notably absent for the fourth consecutive debate was former president Donald Trump. He's not wasting time on these debates, so why should everyone else?

The Republican primary field keeps pretending that Trump isn't there. Perhaps they're hoping Trump will fall from one of the indictments in the Biden administration's unprecedented harassment of their political opposition, cynically waiting in the wings to see if their position as runner-up will get them the nomination by fiat.

Unless something horrific like that happens, most Republican voters have been in lockstep with Trump for 2024. At the beginning of this cycle, Ron DeSantis had a small window of a chance because he stood up to Disney's woke agenda. However, DeSantis squandered his opportunity by attacking Trump too hard, which turned off Republican voters. According to FiveThirtyEight, his poll numbers sunk from 45% of the vote in January to a paltry 12% recently.

With every other presidential hopeful polling at numbers even lower than DeSantis, it appears that none of the field has any real shot at defeating Trump. The former president has no incentive to attend the debates because the best that could happen is that someone gets a zinger in at him, which causes some embarrassment.

The entire debate consisted of the candidates trying to one-up and humiliate one another, making for a spectacle the Democrats must laugh at as they watch highlights this morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: debates; gop; primaries; trump
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1 posted on 12/07/2023 8:36:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Finding out who the biggest loser is.


2 posted on 12/07/2023 8:38:08 PM PST by Bayard
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To: SeekAndFind

To weaken Trump fundraising for the Dems.


3 posted on 12/07/2023 8:42:16 PM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: SeekAndFind

PJ Media is ignoring the fact that voter fraud is still going strong.


4 posted on 12/07/2023 8:42:33 PM PST by Vahan1987
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To: SeekAndFind

Uniparty gonna uniparty

Media gonna media


5 posted on 12/07/2023 8:46:27 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Entertainment.

Sort of a fail at that though.


6 posted on 12/07/2023 8:55:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Because the free exchange of ideas and discourse are fundamental to a democracy.

To the “journalist” of this article, Jon Arroz, why do you express your opinion at home when we all know that your wife’s position will always rule the day?

7 posted on 12/07/2023 8:58:35 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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Ronna McRomney Schedules Iowa and New Hampshire Primary Debates With CNN

December 7, 2023 | Sundance | 311 Comments

At a certain point you just start laughing at the insufferable corporate club, a corporation we call the RNC and all those therein.

It’s not really fair to blame Ronna, because just about any other corporate officer from within the corporation would provide the same outcome.  However, that said, Ronna McDaniel has scheduled the Iowa and New Hampshire Republican primary debates to be under the control of CNN; yes, fake news CNN.

CNN – CNN will host two Republican presidential primary debates next month in Iowa and New Hampshire – states that hold the first contests in the race for the 2024 GOP nomination, the network announced Thursday.

The events will provide Republican voters an opportunity to hear the governing philosophies of the leading candidates seeking to challenge the likely Democratic presidential nominee, President Joe Biden, in November.

The first debate will take place on January 10 at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa, less than a week before Iowa caucus-goers weigh in on the Republican presidential race. The second debate will be January 21 at St. Anselm College in Goffstown, New Hampshire. (read more)

If we retain our non-pretending status, we all know the reason why.  CNN provides the mechanisms for domestic political narrative creation.  The RNC will keep attempting to eliminate the Trump virus from their controlled political operation up until the very end.  The RNC agenda and the CNN agenda are the same; that reality is why this decision. Yes, it really is that simple.

The functional mission of the UniParty apparatus is not based on ideology; the core and consequential baseline revolves around the business of American politics and the motives of the people who control the institutions within it.  For this outline I focus only on the Republican wing, the GOP corporation, one side of the professional business apparatus.

WRITE THIS DOWN, and force yourself to remember it every day. 

The Republican Party priority is to retain their business, to control the outcomes, and this has nothing to do with winning elections.” 

The RNC would rather lose elections and retain power, than win elections and lose operational control over the apparatus.

In the past several decades, the motive of a Republican or Democrat politician, advancing their influence by running for political office, has absolutely nothing to do with representing the interests of the American people.  Nothing.  Their interests are to engage within the business of politics, while presenting themselves as qualified actors, to retain the premise of political service.  This is why they will spend $10 million to win an office that only pays $400k/yr.

The business of buying, selling and controlling policy, is the core operation of people within the US political system.  As an outcome, the business has two wings – the RNC and the DNC.  Two private corporations inside the political industry who are in place to retain the overall business model.  The RNC and DNC are both funded by the same interests, banks, corporations, Wall St interests, and even foreign interests who purchase outcomes.

The RNC and DNC are two operational wings inside the industry of politics.  They are in the same business, but they have slightly different business models.

It is a subtle nuance, but once you really understand it, everything falls into place.

The Republican politicians are ambivalent to the outcomes of the Democrats.  The Republican group only cares about the money.  Threaten the power of the Democrats, and you get a toxic and violent response.  Threaten the money of the Republicans, and you get exactly the same level of response.

Democrats are triggered when you threaten their power, their ability to control. 

Republicans are triggered when you threaten their money – their ability to enrich.

The primary of 2024 is the election season when we see firsthand this corporate battle explode inside in the Republican group.  Decades of entrenched power are at stake, and there have been four years of counter positioning and backroom discussion leading up to this moment.

As a consequence, and I know this might sound odd to many people – but winning and/or losing elections becomes a secondary issue.  The people who control the RNC as a private corporation, the people who fund the business, are not focused on winning elections. The RNC corporation is focused on retaining mission control.

The RNC wants to give the illusion of support for MAGA conservatism, because the illusion of choice requires a base voter.  However, every move they make, on an operational level, is exactly in line with their previous outlook toward cocktail-class corporate republicanism.  The MAGA base of support cannot trust this corporate group, and we must not be blind or unguarded about the Machiavellian schemes they construct.

Donald Trump is not a problem for the Republican Party; Donald Trump is our response to the problem within the Republican Party.

Republicans are far more violent, hate-filled and vitriolic than Democrats when their money is threatened. 

As long as the money is not threatened, Republicans happily play the game and permit the Democrats to purchase their votes and support.  However, threaten the money of the Republicans, and they will be the very first to go nuclear… including the intentional loss of any/all elections in order to preserve their stake.

This dichotomy, ambivalence and illusion, is what you saw in the 2018 midterms, 2020 general and 2022 midterms from the professional Republicans.  The MAGA team, who identify as Republicans as a method for ballot entry, are the only ones who will fight to change this dynamic.  Therefore, the Republican Party views the MAGA insurgents as the enemy that must be removed.

Now, to Iowa…

The Republican Party of Iowa Central Committee has refused to set a date by which a voter must choose Republican voter affiliation in order to participate in the January 15 caucus.  The private club is positioning to block the MAGA insurgency and advance the DeSantis operation; because if the approved RNC candidate doesn’t win in Iowa, Godzilla Trump will take the momentum and destroy the club.

The result is that Iowa Democrats (who have screwed up their own caucuses, so they will be free on Jan. 15) will swarm the Republican caucuses to cause mischief.  Iowans, who are not stupid, know exactly what “mischief” means in this context.  At best, it means a rough night and some bruises.  At worst, ask Joe Biggs.

This is an inside job by the Republican Party of Iowa.  During the legislative session earlier this year, they were all set to pass a bill setting the deadline for registration at 70 days prior to the caucus date.  Then, suddenly, the “lawyers” said legislators had to take that provision out, and that the Republican Party of Iowa would handle it by resolution.

The private corporation needs control.

As we have witnessed in Georgia, watch the professional party apparatus in Iowa align with a singular mission – to protect their business model.

 In Iowa the SEA ISLAND DeSantis crew have funded and planted Ron DeSantis to camp out.  The RNC, RGA and SI Group are supported by their beneficiary RGA Chair and Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds.  The goal is to use the Jeff Roe Cruz Crew, and roughly 1,000 paid Never Back Down (NBD) conscripts to do the stop Trump astroturf.

Let me emphasize a key point.  The professionally Republican Party apparatus is not positioning to win the 2024 election. The goal of the Republican Party is to remove the threat represented by Donald Trump.  That’s why the alignment with CNN surfaces.

When you start there, all of the RNC weaknesses or flaws look very different, very purposeful.

Donald J. Trump isn’t the cause of the Republican failure; he is our response to their failure.

The people in control of Republican Club do not care who is in the White House, that is a secondary objective. 

What they care about right now is controlling the Republican corporation and stopping the hostile takeover.


8 posted on 12/07/2023 9:05:34 PM PST by Bratch
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s because the swamp GOPe rino uniparty is trying determine which person they can best control, and get that person into the final primaries...

So they can pretend to have a candidate, when the rnc tries to eliminate Trump from the ballot.


9 posted on 12/07/2023 9:07:57 PM PST by backpacker_c
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To: SeekAndFind

Talk to the stupid Republican donors who are pissing their money away on idiotic Republican candidates. If they would pull their heads out of their asses, we could be picking a VP for the 45th President and focusing in on the Biden/Harris Virus.

“But Nope.....we want to fund stupidity & division.”

An example of a Republican donor idiot is a guy I caught on the Squawk Box a few months ago named Leon Cooperman.(Cooperman is a billionaire)

This POS voted for Mitt Romney in 2016 even though he wasn’t a candidate and then becomes a Biden Republican in 2020.

“With Republican donors like these who needs enemies?”


10 posted on 12/07/2023 9:14:38 PM PST by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So I can hear Christie getting insulted and booed. Makes my night.


11 posted on 12/07/2023 9:24:47 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SeekAndFind

They are hoping Trump is jailed. Then the winner of this group will be the sacrificial lamb in the biggest electoral landslide since 1984.


12 posted on 12/07/2023 9:25:12 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: SeekAndFind

they are hoping for a Trump conviction


13 posted on 12/07/2023 9:39:14 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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“Why Have Pointless Republican Debates When Trump Is Going to Win?”

Why write a pointless article demonstrating your ignorance of how American politics works?


14 posted on 12/07/2023 9:42:07 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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Why Have Pointless Republican Debates When Trump Is Going to Win?

To let Vivek Ramaswamy kick them in the.... in tender spots.

Repeatedly.

With steel toed boots.

With spikes.

He likes doing it.

We enjoy their pain.

There you go.

15 posted on 12/07/2023 9:45:39 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: SeekAndFind

NewsNation has interesting and more in depth coverage of the Gaza war, superior to the supermarket tabloid quality of the alphabet networks. Can’t see a particular bias either.


16 posted on 12/07/2023 9:53:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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Lets assume billionaire Cooperman is not stupid. Rather, let’s Assume the obvious, that he is getting something for his money.


17 posted on 12/07/2023 9:58:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: SeekAndFind
According to FiveThirtyEight, his poll numbers sunk from 45% of the vote in January to a paltry 12% recently.


18 posted on 12/07/2023 10:20:20 PM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good question they already lost nearly half of the previous dismal audience


19 posted on 12/07/2023 10:30:53 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes.

All of them participating are doing so supporting Trump being imprisoned or otherwise unable to run.

Reprehensible.


20 posted on 12/07/2023 10:33:16 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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