Collier Teens Save Pet From Bear Attack (FReeper's dog and kid involved).

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[Carry_Okie]

How about this one?

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Fig. 1. Historical distribution of the American black bear (modified from Hall 1981).

All our continent are belong to them.

[Carry_Okie]

Which map?

The one I linked for you in Post #11.

[AAABEST]

Oh yeah.

Well at least there's an area in the North Pole that doesn't seem to belong to the black bear, according to your map anyway.

I wonder if it would be ok with the eviros if we lived up there and ate snow.

[Bon mots]

All your bears are belong to us.

[Carry_Okie]

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Fig. 2. Present distribution of the American black bear, based on survey responses from provinces and states (Pelton 1994) and research projects in Mexico (D. Doan, Texas A & I University, personal communication).

[arasina]

Fast thinking by Matt! Shelties are great little dogs. I hope Sparkle recovers nicely and I'm glad everyone is okay. (What happened to big Mama and her cub?)

[Carry_Okie]

Well at least there's an area in the North Pole that doesn't seem to belong to the black bear, according to your map anyway.

I wonder if it would be ok with the eviros if we lived up there and ate snow.

Nope. That's already taken.

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Fig. 1. Outlines of the annual activity areas for one radio-collared polar bear (Ursus maritimus) monitored during 4 consecutive years. The boundaries of the multiyear activity area enclosed 517,000 km2 (about 200,000 mi2).

[Carry_Okie]

You will note from the two maps for the black bear, that the animals now range on the Central Coast of California where they never were historically.

Maybe we need grizzlies to protect us from black bear invasions? I think they'd look cool cruising downtown Carmel, don't you?

[My Favorite Headache]

[Carry_Okie]

How appropriate! A Trojan bear.

[My Favorite Headache]

[My Favorite Headache]

No shit dude...especially with friends like these...

[Arthalion]

The California Grizzly was one of the largest and most aggressive subspecies of grizzly in the U.S., and there are numerous historical references to them killing and eating black bears. Since the California Grizzly was a lowland bear that preferred the scrublands, Central Valley, and foothills over the High Sierra's, I'd assume that they were pretty much the only thing keeping the black bears out of those areas.

In my experience, by the way, black bears are rather cowardly. I've run across countless blacks while hiking in the Sierras, and all but one have run at the first sight of me. The one bear that DID decide to charge me reconsidered it after I put a .45 in his side. Didn't kill it (right away anyway, I assume it probably died later), but it quickly abandoned its charge and make a run for the nearest underbrush.

[Carry_Okie]

The California Grizzly was one of the largest and most aggressive subspecies of grizzly in the U.S., and there are numerous historical references to them killing and eating black bears. Since the California Grizzly was a lowland bear that preferred the scrublands, Central Valley, and foothills over the High Sierra's, I'd assume that they were pretty much the only thing keeping the black bears out of those areas.

Precisely my inference.

In my experience, by the way, black bears are rather cowardly. I've run across countless blacks while hiking in the Sierras, and all but one have run at the first sight of me. The one bear that DID decide to charge me reconsidered it after I put a .45 in his side. Didn't kill it (right away anyway, I assume it probably died later), but it quickly abandoned its charge and make a run for the nearest underbrush.

Also correct (in word and deed :-), but try that in Yosemite and you will quickly learn what the real dangers in the woods really are.

[fourdeuce82d]

Kudos to your boy- guts like that are had to instill- you kind of have them or you don't- judgment-going hand to hand with an 8 foot bear- well, that comes with age...*grin*

Best wishes for the dog, congrats to the son, glad everything turned out more or less okay.

[WVNan]

I long for the good ole days when people could roam freely around the countryside. It took so many years to make this country safe for people and only a few to put us back in danger from animal predators again. I don't care what names anybody wants to call me, I hate predatory animals.

[Carry_Okie]

Even if we did want many of these animals back in their original habitat, the food chain is often so distorted by the introduction of exotic plants that such introduction is extremely unwise. There is a LOT of restoration work to be done first. It's like rebuilding a foundation; it comes before everything else.

[Cathryn Crawford]

This is a doggie ping for you. ;-)

[Scenic Sounds]

Thanks. Cool story. Everyone did his/her job here - even mama bear.

Hope Sparkle heals quickly. ;-)

[stands2reason]

One of those mini-sheltie type collies.

The shetland sheepdog aka "sheltie" is a herding dog from the Shetland Isles. No relation to the Collie. Great family dogs, though they might "herd" you to death...