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Lawyer Calls Jurors 'Cave Dwellers'
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Posted on 10/14/2003 6:46:07 AM PDT by martin_fierro

Lawyer Calls Jurors 'Cave Dwellers'

PIKEVILLE, Ky. - A federal prosecutor in a high-profile vote fraud trial has struck a nerve with eastern Kentucky residents by describing some potential jurors in the mountain region as "illiterate cave dwellers."

Assistant U.S. Attorney Kenneth Taylor made the remark in his effort to persuade a judge not to move the trial of former state Sen. John Doug Hays and several of his supporters back to Pikeville from London, about 90 miles west.

Pretrial publicity has been so rampant in the region, Taylor said, that many potential jurors in the Pikeville area would have to be disqualified because they have formed opinions. "All that would remain to try the case would be illiterate cave dwellers."

Residents of the mountain region have long been sensitive to anything that smacks of the old hillbilly stereotype. And the furor that erupted last year over the planned CBS reality series "The Real Beverly Hillbillies" has made some even more vigilant.

"When you say something like this among your buddies at the country club, it's one thing. But when you go out in public and make this kind of statement, you've got to be stone-cold stupid," said Dee Davis, president of the Center for Rural Strategies, a group that has led the fight against such stereotypes.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: silvertongueddevil; smoothmove
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Oh, and John Doug Hays is (D). Conspicuous by its absence.
1 posted on 10/14/2003 6:46:08 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: martin_fierro
Kentucky is a beautiful state. I have found our neighbors to the south to be very friendly, too. Mr. Hays needs to come down from his ivory tower.
2 posted on 10/14/2003 6:51:40 AM PDT by raisincane
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To: martin_fierro
I would rather be called a troglodyte than a Democrate any day of the week.
3 posted on 10/14/2003 6:52:59 AM PDT by Chewbacca (Nothing burps better than bacon!)
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To: martin_fierro
This got big play in the state papers, which tried to style it that he said that Eastern Kentuckians were all iiliterate cave dwellers. What he meant was that there was so much publicity about this Democratic official that everyone in the jury pool was tainted by the coverage. Anyone who didn't know about it would have to have been living in a cave and not read a newspaper. It's an easy distinction, and I'll leave it to you guys to guess why the papers would miss that.
4 posted on 10/14/2003 6:53:45 AM PDT by Bluegrass Federalist
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To: raisincane
Agreed.
5 posted on 10/14/2003 6:55:00 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: FutureSenatorFromKentucky
That is the way I read it too.
6 posted on 10/14/2003 7:01:20 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: FutureSenatorFromKentucky
It's an easy distinction,

If the trial was to be held in the Bronx, and he felt the jury pool was tainted, would he refer to those outside of it as "illiterate cave dwellers" ? Umm, I doubt it.

7 posted on 10/14/2003 7:05:35 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: martin_fierro
I have good friends that live in Kentucky. Half of them can read and right. Over a quarter of them wear shoes.

Some of my more wealthy Kentucky friends have more than one appliance on their back porch and two, maybe three nice cars on blocks in the front yard.
8 posted on 10/14/2003 7:09:46 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Chewbacca
I agree with you.
9 posted on 10/14/2003 7:10:35 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Bluntpoint
Half of them can read and right.

Oh, this is too easy.

10 posted on 10/14/2003 7:15:01 AM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: FutureSenatorFromKentucky
I understood what the prosecutor meant from the article. The article was attempting to be inflammatory, but I understood that because of the publicity of the trial, what he was trying to say. I wonder why they didn't put the (D) after the congress critter's name? Humn. (D) and vote fraud? I don't believe it.
11 posted on 10/14/2003 7:16:06 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket (http://www.strangesolutions.com)
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To: raisincane
Maybe Hays in angling for a job on the ABC Evening News.
12 posted on 10/14/2003 7:20:14 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Bluntpoint
Half of them can read and right.

Calling the spelin poolece, we all no its reed not read.
13 posted on 10/14/2003 7:20:56 AM PDT by Valin (I have my own little world, but it's okay - they know me here.)
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To: Valin
A Spelling Test


Emily Sue passed away and Bubba called 911.
The 911 operator told Bubba that she would send someone out right away. "Where do you live?" asked the operator.
Bubba replied, "At the end of Eucalyptus Drive."
The operator asked, "Can you spell that for me?"
There was a long pause and finally Bubba said, "How 'bout if I drag her over to Oak Street, and you pick her up there?"
14 posted on 10/14/2003 7:26:40 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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Whats The Difference


What's the difference between a Yankee zoo and a Redneck zoo?

On the cage in a Yankee zoo, it will have the name of the animal and the scientific name in Latin.
A Southern zoo will have the name of the animal and a recipe.

15 posted on 10/14/2003 7:32:08 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: martin_fierro; dead
"When you say something like this among your buddies at the country club, it's one thing. But when you go out in public and make this kind of statement, you've got to be stone-cold stupid," said Dee Davis, president of the Center for Rural Strategies, a group that has led the fight against such stereotypes.

You have more restraint than I. Were I to have posted that article, I think I couldn't have helped myself from altering it to read...

"When lawyer say this to clan at country club, it one thing. But when him go out in public and say, him am stone-cold stupid — and me know stone! Them plenty cold!," said Og CrushSkull, president of the Center for Rural Strategies, a group that has led the fight against such stereotypes.

...and then making a note of the change in my Comments field.

Dan
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16 posted on 10/14/2003 7:38:29 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Valin
A Counterfeiter


A big-city counterfeiter decided the best place to pass off his phony $18 bills would be in some small hick Kentucky town.
So, he got into his new wheels and off he went.
He found a tiny town with a single store. He entered the store and handed one of the bogus bills to the man behind the counter. "Can you change this for me, please?" he said.
The store clerk looked at the $18 bill a short time, then smiled and told the man, "Ah reckon so, Mister. Ya want 2 nines or 3 sixes?"
17 posted on 10/14/2003 7:42:53 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: BibChr
With A Southern Accent


An Outsider in a small Kentucky town around Christmas time, saw a "Nativity Scene" that showed great skill and talent had gone into creating it. But one small feature was all wrong: the three wise men were wearing firemen's helmets.
Totally unable to come up with a reason or explanation, he left. At a "Quik Stop" on the edge of town, he asked the lady behind the counter about the helmets.

She exploded into a rage, yelling, "You darn Yankees never read your Bibles!"

The Outsider assured her that he did, but simply couldn't recall anything about firemen in the Bible.

She jerked her Bible from behind the counter and riffled through some pages, and finally jabbed her finger at a passage. Sticking it in the guys face she said, "See, it says right here, 'The three wise men came from afar.'"
18 posted on 10/14/2003 7:49:12 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: All

Let's keep the Dem's on the run!
Click the Pic!

19 posted on 10/14/2003 7:50:18 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: martin_fierro
Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer:
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and later got thawed out by some of your scientists.

Your world frightens and confuses me! Sometimes the odd noises from these metal boxes scares me and makes me want to run back to my cave. Sometimes when I look up at the ceiling I see these strange tubes that light up at the flick of a wall stick, I wonder, did demons catch light from the sun and put it there? I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.


20 posted on 10/14/2003 7:52:41 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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