Say L.I. Mayor Wants D.C. Job

NY Daily News ^ | 10.18.2003

[NYC GOP Chick]

Say L.I. mayor wants D.C. job

WASHINGTON - Hempstead, L.I., Mayor James Garner has told fellow Republicans he will seek to challenge Democratic Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, GOP sources said yesterday.

McCarthy, a nurse serving her fourth term in Congress, became a fervent advocate for gun control after her husband was killed and her son badly wounded in a shooting spree on the Long Island Rail Road in 1993.

The Republican sources said Garner, 58, has had discussions to gather support from national leaders, including Rep. Thomas Reynolds (R-N.Y.), head of the National Republican Congressional Committee.

One Republican officeholder, who declined to give his name, said Garner, who is black, highlights the Republican Party's effort to attract more minority voters.

Garner, when reached for comment, would not say definitively whether he will run, but added, "I certainly plan on making an announcement in November."

The Associated Press

[NYC GOP Chick]

I don't understand how this woman -- possibly the dumbest member of Congress -- keeps winning every year.

The only more stunning thing to ponder is that the Mayor of Hempstead is a Republican. I mean, that's like the slum of Nausea County...

[alisasny]

I will work on this campaign!!!! This woman has no business being in congress. With all the tax problems in Nassau county it may not be a good year for the rats.

Little story.

When her husband died many felt sorry for the poor widow and sent her money. I sent her 20 bucks with a heartfelt note. A few months later I get a form letter with an anti gun control screed and then next thing you know she suddenly has enough money to run for congress. I wish I could have asked for my money back.

Anyway name one law that COLIN FERGUSON broke in order to obtain the guns. I believe he broke no laws in getting the weapon.
Gun control does not stop criminals.

[NYC GOP Chick]

When her husband died many felt sorry for the poor widow and sent her money. I sent her 20 bucks with a heartfelt note. A few months later I get a form letter with an anti gun control screed and then next thing you know she suddenly has enough money to run for congress. I wish I could have asked for my money back.

Believe it or not, my experience was almost the EXACT same -- I sent about $20 or $25 for her son's alleged medical expenses fund and instead of receiving a thank-you (which wasn't really necessary), I got some anti-gun crap and a solicitation for her congressional run.

[Gone_Postal]

I mean, that's like the slum of Nausea County...

Freeport not withstanding

[NYC GOP Chick]

Which is worse?

[OldFriend]

This woman was a registered Republican. A Catholic.

She campaigned for Cuomo because he was AGAINST the death penalty.

She claimed to be pro-life.

She REFUSED to vote FOR a ban on partial birth abortion.

She's the perfect demonrat and needs to be un-elected. BIG TIME

[SamiGirl]

I agree with you completely. She is a fraud too in adition to being the "dumbest member of Congress." What I find especially revolting is that she used her dead husband and injured son to get elected. Instead of jumping on the anti-gun wagon, she should stop and think that maybe if her husband had carried a gun, he would be alive today.

[alisasny]

Ferguson legally purchased the handgun Ruger P-89 9mm pistol at Turner's Outdoorsman, a California sporting goods store. To purchase the handgun, Ferguson had to show proof of residency. After having acquired a California driver's license using the address of the motel where he was staying, Ferguson passed the background check and waited the mandatory 15 days before picking up his gun.

[alisasny]

Perspectives on Guns
How to Stop Mass Public Shootings

When citizens are allowed to carry concealed weapons, death and injuries from shootings decline.

By JOHN R. LOTT, JR.

It is too bad Barbra Streisand won’t debate Charlton Heston over the meaning of the 2nd Amendment. Yet, as entertaining as that debate would be, the more important question is: Would gun control have prevented the horrific shootings discussed in her movie based on Colin Ferguson’s rampage, which took six lives on the Long Island Railroad in 1993?

In Streisand’s movie, the solution is clear: more regulations of guns. However, what might appear to be the most obvious policy may actually cost lives. When gun-control laws are passed, it is law-abiding citizens, not would-be criminals, who adhere to them. Police officers or armed guards cannot be stationed everywhere, so gun-control laws risk creating situations in which the good guys cannot defend themselves.

Other countries have followed a different solution. Twenty or so years ago in Israel, there were many instances of terrorists pulling out machine guns and firing away at civilians in public. However, with expanded concealed-handgun use by Israeli citizens, terrorists soon found ordinary people pulling pistols on them. Suffice it to say, terrorists in Israel no longer engage in such public shootings. The one recent shooting of schoolchildren in the Middle East further illustrates these points. On March 13, 1997, seven Israeli girls were shot to death by a Jordanian soldier while they visited Jordan’s so-called Island of Peace. The Times reported that the Israelis had "complied with Jordanian requests to leave their weapons behind when they entered the border enclave. Otherwise, they might have been able to stop the shooting, several parents said."

Hardly mentioned in the massive news coverage of the school-related shootings during the past year is how they ended. Two of the four shootings were stopped by a citizen displaying a gun. In the October 1997 shooting spree at a high school in Pearl, Miss., which left two students dead, an assistant principal retrieved a gun from his car and physically immobilized the shooter while waiting for the police.

More recently, the school-related shooting in Edinboro, Pa., which left one teacher dead, was stopped only after a bystander pointed a shotgun at the shooter, when he started to reload his gun. The police did not arrive for another 10 minutes. Who knows how many lives were saved by these prompt responses?

Anecdotal stories are not sufficient to resolve this debate. Together with my colleague William Landes, I have compiled data on all the multiple-victim public shootings occurring in the U. S. from 1977 to 1995. Included were incidents where at least two people were killed or injured in a public place; to focus on the type of shooting seen in the Ferguson rampage, we excluded gang wars or shootings that were the byproduct of another crime, such as robbery. The U.S. averaged 21 such shootings annually, with an average of 1.8 people killed and 2.7 wounded in each one.

We examined a range of different gun laws, such as waiting periods as well as methods of deterrence, such as the death penalty. However, only one policy was found to reduce deaths and injuries from these shootings: allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns.

The effect of "shall-issue" concealed handgun laws, which give adults the right to carry concealed handguns if they do not have a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness, was dramatic. Thirty-one states now have such laws. When states passed them during the 19 years we studied, the number of multiple-victim public shootings declined by 84%. Deaths from these shootings plummeted on average by 90%, injuries by 82%. Higher arrest rates and increased use of the death penalty slightly reduced the incidence of these events, but we could not conclusively determine such an effect.

Unfortunately, much of the public policy debate is driven by lopsided coverage of gun use. Horrific events like the Colin Ferguson shooting receive massive news coverage, as they should, but the 2.5 million times each year that people use guns defensively -- including cases in which public shootings are stopped before they happen -- are ignored.

Concealed handgun laws also deter other crimes from occurring. I recently analyzed the FBI’s crime data for all 3,054 counties in the United States from 1977 to 1994. After concealed handgun laws have been in effect for 5 years, murders declined by at least 15%, rapes by 9% and robberies by 11%. Permit holders were found to be extremely law-abiding, and data on accidental deaths and suicides indicate there were no increases.

The possibility of a law-abiding citizen carrying a concealed handgun is apparently enough to convince many would-be killers that they will not be successful. Without permitting law-abiding citizens the right to carry guns, we risk leaving victims as sitting ducks.

John R. Lott, Jr., the John M. Olin Law and Economics Fellow at the University of Chicago School of Law, is the author of "More Guns, Less Crime" (University of Chicago Press, 1998)

[NYC GOP Chick]

She's a one-trick pony and has absolutely no grasp of any issues beyond that one -- and her grip on that one is pretty tenuous.

[NYC GOP Chick]

Great research. Thanks!

[DonDerham]

Dr. Marilyn O'Grady, the conservative Republican who waged an underfunded campaign and got 43% against Mrs. McCarthy intends to run again. She believes she can build on her name recognition and campaign organization to beat Mrs. McCarthy.

Mayor Garner is a nice fellow, but he's not any sort of conservative. He's never run as a Republican (village mayors are nonpartisan), has a shaky record in his village and has spent to much time in recent years peddling the Democrats' tax and spend urban agenda.

www.voteogrady.com is the Doc's website. Garner's? Nobody knows.