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North Koreans kill babies of women forced back from China
Arab Times ^ | 23 Oct 2003 | Arab Times

Posted on 10/22/2003 2:20:11 PM PDT by Onelifetogive

North Korea kills the babies of pregnant women forcibly repatriated from China, according to a report released by a rights group Wednesday which details the brutal treatment of people who try to flee the last Stalinist bastion.

The camps where North Koreans sent back across the border are locked away justified the infanticide by the need to stop the birth of babies that might have Chinese fathers, according to harrowing witness accounts compiled by the US Committee for Human Rights in North Korea.

Women who had been in the camps told how some mothers to be were forced to have abortions while others watched in desolation while their new-born children were killed before them.

Accounts of the killings were included in "The Hidden Gulag - Exposing North Korea's Prison Camps" by David Hawk, a former UN human rights investigator. Hawk estimates there are between 150,000 and 200,000 people in "slave" camps in North Korea where torture and executions are routine and many other inmates die of starvation.

A second category of camps has been set up for people sent back from China where according to some rights groups, up to 300,000 people have fled from North Korea's chronic food shortages and repression. The report said the North's authorities practice a "particularly reprehensible phenomena of repression" against forcibly repatriated pregnant women.

Among the accounts was one given by Choi Yong-Hwa, a young woman who was sent to a provincial detention centre in South Sinuiju, near the Chinese frontier. The report said Choi and two other women were assigned to help pregnant women to get to a military hospital. "The woman assisted by Choi was given a labour-inducing injection and shortly thereafter gave birth. While Choi watched in horror the baby was suffocated with a wet towel in front of the mother who passed out in distress." The report said "the explanation provided was that no half-Han (Chinese) babies would be tolerated." A 66-year-old grandmother held in the border city of Sinuiju also helped pregnant detainees at the centre where she was held.

The woman, whose name was withheld to protect her family still in North Korea, said she helped deliver seven babies "some of which were full term, some of which were injection-induced abortions. All of the babies were killed."

Describing the case of one woman who had been married to a Chinese man, the report said when the grandmother "started to hold the baby and wrap him in a blanket, a guard grabbed the newborn by one leg and threw it in a large, plastic-lined box. "A doctor explained that since North Korea was short on food, the country should not have to feed the children of foreign fathers."

Two of the babies survived for two days. The grandmother told Hawk that a North Korean guard "came by, and seeing that two of the babies were not dead yet, stabbed them with forceps at a soft spot in their skulls." Other women told of similar killings at other camps where women who had children with Chinese fathers were berated.

Accounts of the baby-killings concentrated on three cities -- Sinuiju, Onsong and Chongjin -- but the report said it was likely the practice was widespread. China normally sends back North Koreans it catches in its territory because it does not consider them refugees, despite pressure from the United Nations and aid groups.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: babies; china; infanticide; korea; northkorea; northkoreans
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This would explain why liberals are so enthralled by the North Korean government. They have similar agendas.
1 posted on 10/22/2003 2:20:12 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
The grandmother told Hawk that a North Korean guard "came by, and seeing that two of the babies were not dead yet, stabbed them with forceps at a soft spot in their skulls."

This would technically be called a "Modified Partial-Birth Abortion"

2 posted on 10/22/2003 2:22:46 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
The liberals get positively giddy when they think of the US just like North Korea. (With them in charge, of course.)
3 posted on 10/22/2003 2:23:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Onelifetogive
Cannibalism in N Korea

United Nations conspicously SILENT as usual...

4 posted on 10/22/2003 2:25:17 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Onelifetogive
This is barbaric! Those poor children and their greiving mothers.

I wish I could unread this.
5 posted on 10/22/2003 2:26:26 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: joesnuffy
United Nations conspicously SILENT as usual...

If only they were white people...the UN would do something about it. (Non-Jewish white people...of course)

6 posted on 10/22/2003 2:28:36 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: annyokie
This is barbaric! Those poor children and their greiving mothers.

A very small percent of the people who have ever lived have experienced the freedom we have. Freedom is NOT the norm. We have MANY people in America who would rather we were like North Korea, so long as they were in control.

7 posted on 10/22/2003 2:31:04 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: joesnuffy
United Nations conspicously SILENT as usual...

People are noticing. Serious talk of reorganizing the UN is beginning. Unfortunately, the UN won't be going away, but it will be changing some.

8 posted on 10/22/2003 2:33:11 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Onelifetogive
Can anybody tell me why when the North Koreans murder babies in the womb from women repatriated from China it is a "particularly reprehensible phenomena of repression", whereas when abortion mills in this country do the same thing it is only honoring a "woman's right to choose" and is OK?

Other than the desire of the woman, it is the same murderous act of infanticide.

9 posted on 10/22/2003 2:34:34 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Onelifetogive
No kidding. I have a hard-core dem friend who insists these stories are not true. We parted ways over the forced repatriation of North Koreans by the Chinese.
10 posted on 10/22/2003 2:37:00 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Onelifetogive
If only they were white people...the UN would do something about it. (Non-Jewish white people...of course)

Not even then. Plenty of Communist victims were white people, and not a peep out of the UN. They are more consistent that way than USA liberals.

11 posted on 10/22/2003 2:39:45 PM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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Plenty of Communist victims were white people, and not a peep out of the UN.

I stand corrected.

12 posted on 10/22/2003 2:40:43 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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and not a peep out of the UN.

The UN is so worthless. We should create an association of "free" nations. 50-100 politically and economically free nations. We could the "remove the feeding tube" from the UN.

13 posted on 10/22/2003 2:42:54 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: annyokie
"This is barbaric! Those poor children and their greiving mothers. I wish I could unread this."

I can relate to your sentiments. Similarly, I once read a book entitled 'Cry Korea Cry' (forget the author) and I could barely get through even the beginnings of the book. Absolutely unthinkable what they do.

My point is that I had the same wish - that I could have "unread" what I already read.

15 posted on 10/22/2003 2:47:53 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: Onelifetogive
Is someone going to blame this on Jeb?
16 posted on 10/22/2003 2:48:42 PM PDT by verity
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To: Onelifetogive
This must be the third horrible story from N. Korea that's been posted today (not that there are ever any non-horrible stories from N. Korea).

I think that situation is way under-reported. I'm glad it's getting attention.

I feel so strongly about this that I am inclined to support military action aginst N. Korea, and I've felt that way for a long time. I don't know if others here feel as strongly as I do.

17 posted on 10/22/2003 2:52:13 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Paulie; annyokie
I know how you feel. But rather than unreading, I'd like to change the situation in N. Korea.
18 posted on 10/22/2003 2:53:58 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Onelifetogive
Interesting that China "forcebly repatriates" North Koreans while expecting its neighbors to welcome swarms of chinese expatriots with open arms. Kinda like Mexico.
19 posted on 10/22/2003 2:54:07 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Paulie
I have read terrible terrible stories of the abuses of women and children in North Korea. Additionally, I have made the acquaintance of many Koreans and these horror stories are all true from what I have learned anecdotally.

20 posted on 10/22/2003 2:54:55 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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