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Chuck Baldwin Asks Christians, "Is President Bush Really One of Us?"
Chuck Baldwin Ministries ^ | 10-24-03 | Baldwin, Chuck

Posted on 10/23/2003 2:21:49 PM PDT by Theodore R.

Is President Bush Really "One Of Us?"

By Chuck Baldwin

Food For Thought From The Chuck Wagon

October 24, 2003 As Jimmy Carter had done before him, G.W. Bush won the White House, in part, due to his Christian profession. Christians nationwide regard President Bush as "one of us." They believe that he shares their Christian principles and values.

Why, then, does President Bush use the power of his office to publicly condemn those Christians who courageously champion Christian principles? Time and again, President Bush has publicly repudiated the statements or actions of principled Christians as they attempted to stand for their convictions.

Back in 2002, Bush publicly chastised a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, Rev. Jerry Vines, for his truthful remarks regarding Islam. Vines said, "Islam is not just as good as Christianity." He also rightly said, "Allah is not Jehovah." These remarks brought a swift and stern rebuke from the White House.

Likewise, when Jerry Falwell suggested that the terrorist attacks in 2001 may have been God's judgment upon America (they very well could have been), the White House immediately pronounced its vehement disagreement and displeasure. Dr. Falwell quickly apologized.

However, the most egregious example of Bush's animosity toward outspoken Christians is his handling of the Judge Roy Moore case in Alabama. Not only did President Bush publicly condemn Judge Moore, he either sent or allowed his chief political consultant Karl Rove to spearhead the attack against him.

While it was the ACLU that initially filed the legal case against Judge Moore, it was the White House that was willing to feed Judge Moore to the wolves by the surreptitious, behind-the-scenes maneuverings of Rove.

It was Karl Rove who managed the campaign of Judge Moore's principal opponent in the race for Supreme Court Chief Justice. Furthermore, it appears that Rove is privately managing Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor's prosecution of Judge Moore with the goal of putting Pryor on the federal bench. And now another outspoken Christian patriot is in the Bush crosshairs. His name is Lt. Gen. William Boykin.

In speeches before Christian gatherings, General Boykin committed a cardinal breach of political correctness by affirming that America is "a Christian nation." He also rightly observed that many Muslim terrorists hate America because we are a Christian nation. Predictably, these remarks have brought out the ire and chastisement of President Bush.

After learning of the general's remarks, Bush quickly appeared before a Muslim audience in Indonesia and soundly rebuked his statements. He said, "He (General Boykin) didn't reflect my opinion. Look, it (Boykin's remarks) just doesn't reflect what the (U.S.) government thinks."

By Bush's own words, he doesn't believe America is a Christian nation. Beyond that, he chose to stand alongside Muslims overseas when rebuking a Christian Army general who is proudly and faithfully serving his country and his Commander-in-Chief. It is painfully obvious that President Bush is willing to sacrifice any and all Christian patriots on the altar of political correctness.

It is one thing for President Bush to constantly distance himself from Christian convictions and doctrines. He wouldn't be the first President to do so. It is quite another thing, however, for Christians throughout America to continue to give him a pass for his many foibles under the charade that he is "one of us."

© Chuck Baldwin


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: boykin; bush; bushandgod; carter; christianity; falwell; jerryvines; muslims; persecution; politicalcorrectness; pryor; rove; roymoore; williamboykink
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1 posted on 10/23/2003 2:21:50 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
President Bush is the president of all Americans. Some are Christians. Some are not. It's a tough line to walk. It's easier to complain when you don't have to walk a mile in his shoes. Thank God I don't. Thank God President Bush is standing up for all of us. After 8 years of Monica, Hillary, and Bill, we have been truly blessed.
2 posted on 10/23/2003 2:24:56 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: MoJo2001
True.
3 posted on 10/23/2003 2:27:29 PM PDT by what's up
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To: MoJo2001
upchuckwagon!
4 posted on 10/23/2003 2:31:09 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
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To: MoJo2001
Exactly
5 posted on 10/23/2003 2:33:17 PM PDT by Kaslin (What happend to my tagline?)
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To: Theodore R.
I get so tired of all the nit-picking complainers out there.

If you don't like him don't vote for him!

I'm sure Baldwin Ministries can find one out of the nine Democratic Presidential contenders to better fit with their outlook.

Hey Baldwin Ministries, which one of those nine is going to do the Christian thing and sign the new law banning partial birth abortions?

6 posted on 10/23/2003 2:34:40 PM PDT by Republican Red (Karmic hugs welcomed!)
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To: Theodore R.
Who's "us", Chuck?

You're a clownish buffoon who uses every column to rant and rave against George W. Bush.

Why don't you save a soul or two, instead of bellyaching like a political candidate?

7 posted on 10/23/2003 2:39:15 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: Theodore R.
..beyond that, he chose to stand alongside Muslims overseas when rebuking a Christian Army general who is proudly and faithfully serving his country and his Commander-in-Chief....

Yep. Comparing the way the GWB has left Moore and Boykin out in the wire taking liberal fire, with the way Jeb rushed to save Terri, shows who the real Christian is in the dynasty.

8 posted on 10/23/2003 2:40:20 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Theodore R.
Furthermore, it appears that Rove is privately managing Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor's prosecution of Judge Moore with the goal of putting Pryor on the federal bench.

It "appears," but Chuckie, of course, gives no evidence (nobody else can, either). He manages, in one sentence, to slime the President, Bill Pryor, and Karl Rove.

Baldwin is a head case.

9 posted on 10/23/2003 2:41:59 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: MoJo2001
Question from AMERICANS to Baldwin: Are YOU one of us?
10 posted on 10/23/2003 2:43:19 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Theodore R.
Amen.

MM
11 posted on 10/23/2003 2:43:32 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Republican Red
If you don't like him don't vote for him!

O.K. We won't.

12 posted on 10/23/2003 2:46:23 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: Republican Red
which one of those nine is going to do the Christian thing and sign the new law banning partial birth abortions?

You might go read the bill. It does not ban partial-birth abortions. It narrowly defines PBA as an abortion in which the ENTIRE FETAL HEAD is outside the mother's body, which is NOT how PBAs are performed.

Take your blinders off. No telling what all you're missing. This article is dead on the money, whether your head is buried in sand or not.

MM

13 posted on 10/23/2003 2:46:43 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Theodore R.
This reminds me somewhat of John Ashcroft's confirmation hearing before the Senate. You must choose either God or politics to get elected. It is a dirty business, full of comprimise, as the latest election in California proves once again.
14 posted on 10/23/2003 2:48:05 PM PDT by Raymond Hendrix
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To: MississippiMan
This article is dead on the money, whether your head is buried in sand or not.

Is it? Where is the evidence that Karl Rove is manipulating Bill Pryor?

That's a scurrilous lie, but it's par for the course with this "pastor."

15 posted on 10/23/2003 2:49:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: newgeezer
The pres is always the easiest target for piety snipers. You don't have to be on top you your piety sniping game to really sound good when dissing a president's "Christianity".
16 posted on 10/23/2003 2:50:56 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: sinkspur
Out of all the allegations made, interesting that you choose to challenge the most obscure example mentioned. LOL.

Bush regularly takes anti-Christian stands, period.

MM
17 posted on 10/23/2003 2:51:42 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Theodore R.
What an unspeakable jerk.
18 posted on 10/23/2003 2:54:13 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: MoJo2001; All
I am wit' you 100000%!!! Get off the mans back, freakin' arm chair presidents!
19 posted on 10/23/2003 2:55:34 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Swanks
If you don't like him don't vote for him!

I didn't either. However, I am ready to give him a pass on these items but NEVER if he passes an amnesty bill. As seen so far, I don't want history to rate this guy as any type of champion for conservatives. He's a mushy, triangulated politician -no more, no less - but much better than what any commie/dem could put forth.

20 posted on 10/23/2003 2:55:45 PM PDT by Digger
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