Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Elta expects US license for anti-missile system (for US commercial airliners) in Q1 2004
Globes ^ | 29 October 2003 | Dror Marom

Posted on 10/29/2003 1:16:04 PM PST by anotherview

Elta expects US license for anti-missile system in Q1 2004

The license will enable Israel Aircraft Industries-Elta to supply the systems for thousands of US passenger airliners.

Dror Marom 29 Oct 03 15:08

The licensing process for the Israeli systems for countering missile threats to passenger airliners is slated for completion in the first quarter of 2004. Achieving this target will enable Israel Aircraft Industries subsidiary Elta Electronic Industries to commence sales and deliveries of its systems to hundreds of US airlines, operating 7,000 airliners.

Elta has signed a business agreement with US aerospace and missile manufacturer Raytheon (NSYE: RTN), which will be its strategic partner in the US.</P

Elta managing director Israel Livnat predicted that the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) would approve the system, called Safe Flight, within six months. Elta will supply the means of detecting missile threats to airliners, while Raytheon will supply the systems for disrupting missiles, which will probably use flares as diversions.

The system will be priced at $1.5 million. Elta said that the system would operate automatically when installed on airliners, without intervention by the airliner crew , and would not require training for the pilots.

Published by Globes [online] -l www.globes.co.il - on October 29, 2003


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; antimissilesystem; faa; raytheon; safeflight; usaircraft; usairlines
El-Al jets are currently equipped with anti-missile systems. It only makes sense that U.S. aircraft get a similar system, and the Israeli system is proven and working. Building it in cooperation with an American company for the American market, and employing both Americans and Israelis, sounds like a win-win to me.
1 posted on 10/29/2003 1:16:05 PM PST by anotherview
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: anotherview
I'd like to see test results on these "defensive" systems.
Sounds like a bunch of hooee.
How do you spoof a Stinger from a B7X7 with multiple honkin' engines hanging out there?
2 posted on 10/29/2003 1:22:06 PM PST by grobdriver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: grobdriver
This is what I love about FR. On any given subject, somebody will come out and state it will NEVER work.

If flares work on B-52's, B-1's, B-2's, and a whole host of military aircraft to spoff incoming missiles, what makes you think they won't work on commercial aircraft. I really would like to know.

El Al just installed them on their 747's on the Israel-Canada-LA route and are confident they will work.
3 posted on 10/29/2003 1:44:46 PM PST by Lokibob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Lokibob
The difference is, when a military pilot loads up his aircraft with a 4-G turn at the same time he punches out his flares, he doesn't have to worry about anyone in the back spilling their drinks.
Like I said, I'd like to see test reports where a straight and level heavy (drone) escaped a heat seeker using these military systems that expect some maneuvering going on.
This is "Let's install it and hope it works".
4 posted on 10/29/2003 1:52:47 PM PST by grobdriver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: grobdriver
Passive IR countermeasures work, but I'm not volunteering for the live demo. For background, there's an excellent article in Jun/Jul 2003 Air and Space Magazine- "How Things Work: Infrared Countermeasures" The systems that cool the threat from heat-seeking missiles. by Sam Goldberg

Or try this google search: Passive IR Countermeasure

Installation of commercial airliner IR countermeasures is a red herring pursued by several US Senators (Feinstein), the ATA (Airline Transport Assoc), and ALPA (Air Line Pilots Assn). While using a MANPAD IR SAM to down an airliner is possible, it is unlikely. Airliners possess capabilities not seen with most military helicopters and fighters: Excess thrust with one engine out, Very high bypass (cool) engines, Minimal time operating within the vulnerable envelope, and the most important - No in-fuselage mounted engines.

If this nation is truly concerned about disruption of commercial aviation, we should concentrate on identification of individuals as highjackers and identifying and countering the effects of explosives in cargo, luggage, and carry-on. Potential explosives in cargo and luggage continue as the weak link. Explosive resistant baggage and cargo container research has continued to advance since Pan Am Lockerbie. All US airlines could be equipped with explosive resistant cargo and baggage containers for a fraction of the cost of IR countermeasure.

XHogPilot, out

5 posted on 10/29/2003 2:06:47 PM PST by XHogPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: All
Can someone tell me how missile launch or approach is sensed in order to trigger flare deployment?
6 posted on 10/29/2003 2:09:56 PM PST by Owen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Comment #7 Removed by Moderator

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson