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"This saying is hard, and who can hear it?"

I was born, reared and educated Catholic (Sacred Heart School - 1-12), with devout until death Catholic parents.

Being a non-practioner for a few decades I don't remember these quotes from John Chapter 6. Having read them in your post tonight, I agree wholeheartedly with those deciples who thought the saying is hard. Actually it sounds kind of cannibalistic/paganistic.

As a strict constuctionist as far as the US Constitution goes, my main argument is that the authors knew what they meant by the words they wrote and wanted us to understand the meaning of their words. It would seem that the Lord Jesus Christ should be able to meet that same standard. So if your quotes of John's quotes translated through several languages are accurate, I'm disappointed.

Positive, as a fallen away Catholic, you seem to be faulting the Evangelist and the Bible for a difficult to understand passage. But that is just the opposite of Al's position, who maintained that the Bible is very clear if only one rejected those Catholic doctrines and rituals.

"P.S. To Mr. Sobran (who professes to be a practicing Catholic, I believe). In the Bible, God says that He will Bless those nations that bless the Jewish people, and CURSE those nations that persecute them. Methinks he needs to get away from his catechisms and "Hail Marys" and actually READ the Book! (I am not anti-Catholic - I merely subscribe to the well-documented view that extra-Biblical Catholic Church doctrine and rituals can often obscure for the average man the TRUE meaning of the Scriptures. So, Mr. Sobran - READ the Scriptures FIRST! Then it will all become clearer to you.)"