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BIN LADEN MONEY MEN HAULED TO FED COURT
New York Post ^ | 11/17/03 | KATI CORNELL SMITH

Posted on 11/17/2003 1:16:21 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

November 17, 2003 -- A Yemeni cleric who allegedly boasted of giving Osama bin Laden millions of dollars collected at a Brooklyn mosque could be hauled into federal court as soon as today, after more than 10 months spent fighting extradition from Germany, a law enforcement source said. Sheik Mohammed Al Hasan Al-Moayad and his alleged assistant, Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed, are expected to be arraigned in Brooklyn Federal Court immediately upon their arrival in the U.S. on charges they gave material support to al Qaeda and Hamas.


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1 posted on 11/17/2003 1:16:22 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
How can this be? Islam is a religion of PEACE and TOLERANCE!

...isn't it?

2 posted on 11/17/2003 1:19:19 AM PST by Prime Choice (This Post is Rated "Conservative": May Be Too Intense for Liberal Viewers.)
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To: All
LINKS OF INTEREST
http://www.truthusa.com/LinksOfInterest.html

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: "ATTACK ON AMERICA!"
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html
3 posted on 11/17/2003 1:47:48 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy; Shermy
Speaking of Frankfurt and the Frankfurt cell...

Didn't the "domestic terrorist" suspects who were arrested in Las Vegas back in Feb 1998 at the height of the Clinton-era crisi with Iraq have something to do with Frankfurt? This was at a time when Clinton was supposedly "preparing us for war," as the Weekly Standard put it... against Iraq because it had refused to allow inspections of presidential palaces. anyway, right when the US congress voted on authorizing Clinton to use force, this anthrax criminal case pops up out of nowhere. (Not unlike the 2001 crisis with IRaq where anthrax popped up when we were taking some hard looks at Iraq after 911.)

Anyway, the "alleged domestic terrrorists" had supposedly been telling everyone that Iraqi students were saying the US would suffer a huge attack- a bioterror attack, within two years. (This was in Feb 1998 so this precedes all the anthrax hype of the post 9/11 period.)

These two guys had apparently been going around giving anthrax vaccines to people. (Or at least telling people they were getting vaccinated for it.) Indeed, they had anthrax vaccine in their possession, though who got the shots is not fully known.

THey were turned in by an informant and other things were found, though ultimately at least one guy got off for insufficient evidence. Both probably got off.

One of the men had a typical Taliban beard though both were billed as white redneck supremacists. Both were caught in Vegas - same place the 911 hijackers and other al Qaeda visited before 9/11.

And one of the men had a bioresearch lab in Frankfurt, Germany as well as some related business in the US.

I wonder if there was a lot more to those guys. Up until that anthrax scare, the Clinton admin was talkin tough on Iraq and even had the support of congress it needed if it had to go after Iraq over its violations. But after the anthrax case hit the news, the Clinton admin pretty much handed the Iraq dispute over to Kofi Annan, who made a deal with Iraq. I have to wonder if those men were soemthing more than just aryan nation kooks- only one was once a member of it. Could the Clinton admin have been successfully blackmailed by Iraq into backing down?

The Clinton admin would not do anything which would jeopardize their opinion polls, and a bioterror attack would definitely send shockwaves throughout the nation's economy which would be difficult for a campaign to overcome. It's clear that the Clinton admin downplayed every act of terrorism and arrest, including downplaying the Millenium Plots at LAX and in Jordan, the foreign angle of the OK City bombing, the Centennial Park bombing in which one guy was falsely accused and which is now blamed now on a dead guy, and the aircraft incidents of both Flight 800 and Egyptian airlines, etc?

Might the post 911 anthrax mailings just be another attempt by Iraq or al Qaeda to repeat a possible Feb 1998 blackmail effort which if it occured, appeared to succeed? Or was it just one German biotech businessman and a one-time Aryan nation nut acting in isolation from outside influence?

Back then I bought the domestic terror claim, but that was because I hadn't seen reports - and these are posts which predate 9/11/01- which mentioned the men's testimony and that of others which said they had been telling people about Iraqi sleeper cells poised for an attack in 2000 befor ethey were arrested. Looking at them now I seriously doubt the case was as cut and dried as we have been told.

4 posted on 11/17/2003 2:33:09 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Miss Marple; Howlin; Lion's Cub; Mitchell
See my above post... bear in mind that it's late and maybe this needs a tinfoil wrapper... but just for the record, what do you think about the possibility?

Wasn't it right around Feb 1998 after this 'domestic anthrax incident' that the Clinton admin and the UK ordered anthrax vaccinations for the troops?

5 posted on 11/17/2003 2:39:03 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
I just don't remember enough about this case to draw a conclusion. What you are saying sounds plausible, if the facts from 1998 are as you remember them.

I won't have a lot of time today to research this. If you find anything out, ping me, please.

6 posted on 11/17/2003 2:46:31 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: piasa
TOWNHALL.com: "CLINTON SCANDALS CONTINUE TO SURFACE" -Column by Phyllis Schlafly (COLUMN SNIPPET: "...The GAO discovered that those pilots departed because the Clinton administration ordered them to receive the anthrax vaccine, and 86 percent of those who did take the shots reported adverse side effects. Now, after scores of resignations and hundreds of careers destroyed by court-martial, we discover that our brave servicemen and women were right to resist the anthrax orders, and the government was fatally and corruptly wrong. A lawsuit filed by two Connecticut Air Force Reserve pilots asserted that the vaccine used on the military was never properly tested, and the Food and Drug Administration's recent response was to halt use of existing stocks of the vaccine...") (110502)

stepping back in time...GULF1.com: "CLINTON and SADDAM" by Robert L. Pappas, Col. USMC (Ret.) (September 19, 1998) (Reposted July 21, 2003)

7 posted on 11/17/2003 2:57:17 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Miss Marple
One was from Ohio... one had even laid out plans to attack NY tunnels and subways, supposedly. One had a lab in his house.... here you go:

February 20, 1998
FBI informant says he doesn't know why men had anthrax
Copyright 1998 Las Vegas SUN
Online exclusive
By Denise Cardinal

LAS VEGAS SUN

Ronald Rockwell, the man who notified Las Vegas authorities about two men allegedly transporting anthrax, said he didn't know what the two men planned to do with the deadly biological agent.

"They just said they had military-grade anthrax," Rockwell told the Las Vegas SUN on Friday afternoon.

The two men -- Larry Wayne Harris, 46, of Lancaster, Ohio, and William Job Leavitt Jr., 47, of Logandale -- were charged with conspiracy to possess and possession of a biological agent for use as a weapon. The alleged anthrax is being tested at a government facility in Utah.

The two were arrested at the Royal Center for Advanced Medicine, 2501 N. Green Valley Parkway, about 7:40 p.m. Wednesday. A beige Mercedes-Benz, allegedly transporting the anthrax, was taken to an Army biological center in Dugway, Utah. A hearing on whether to release the pair on bail was delayed until Monday to give lawyers more time to prepare.

Rockwell said Leavitt approached him a few months ago, asking about a device that Rockwell invented called the AZ58 ray tube. According to Rockwell, the tube kills all bacteria through frequency vibrations.

"We (Leavitt and Rockwell) talked a lot about my work," he said. "I was going to turn the AZ58 over to him once I showed him how it works. Then he was going to have all the heavy testing (done) over in Frankfurt, Germany."

Rockwell said that Leavitt planned on producing more AZ58 ray tubes in Frankfurt, and the two were working on a contract where Rockwell would get 10 percent of the profits. He was asking for $20 million without the contract.

Harris came into the picture, Rockwell said, as someone that Leavitt hired as a microbiologist to test the tubes. But Rockwell became suspicious after he noticed the two changing their stories, he said.

"There were inconsistencies," he said. "Leavitt was inconsistent in referring to where the two were and when." Rockwell decided to contact authorities after he discovered that the two had anthrax, he said. He thought that if they wanted to test the ray tube, they would use a more common bacteria and became nervous when they told him they had the deadly bacteria, he said.

The actual tubes of anthrax, he said, weren't in 14 flight bags as reported earlier. Rather, they were in black leather cases in the trunk of the car, labeled with masking tape and marked biological, he said. One of them, he continued, was partially opened and it looked as though it contained some sort of medical files, not vials of anthrax.

"I was looking for someone to take this technology forth to mankind because it is so powerful," he said. "They didn't tell the truth on what they were going to really use on this test."

SUN Staff Writer Art Nadler contributed to this report.

8 posted on 11/17/2003 3:04:54 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: JoeEveryman
fyi, since I know you once wrote on the topic of this las vegas/ohio duo.
9 posted on 11/17/2003 3:46:27 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Angelus Errare; Dog
FYI
10 posted on 11/17/2003 7:15:26 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: piasa
I don't know if there is a tight connection or a loose one, but they seem to be barking up the same biochem WMD tree. Here’s some tidbits on Larry Wayne Harris from the DSL:

http://www.examiner.com/daily/0220anthrax.html Cleveland Plain Dealer Michael Sangiacomo “…… One of the men arrested by the FBI near Las Vegas on a charge of possessing a lethal biological agent has been warning since 1995 that Americans face the threat of a bacteriological attack -- from Iraq or even the U.S. government. …….

Harris and William Leavitt, who owns biology laboratories in Logandale, Nev., and Frankfurt, Germany, were charged Thursday with conspiracy to possess a biological agent for use as a weapon. ……..

The FBI said one of the suspects bragged in Las Vegas that he had enough to wipe out the city and last year laid out a plan to unleash bubonic plague on New York City subways in a massacre that would ruin the economy, surprise the military and be blamed on the Iraqis……..

Harris, identified by the FBI as a member of the white-supremacist Aryan Nations, was previously given 18 months' probation after pleading guilty to illegally obtaining bubonic plague bacteria through the mail in 1995. Last year he pleaded guilty to one count of wire fraud for claiming that he was buying the pathogens for a laboratory where he worked. He was ordered to stop telling people that he works for the CIA. …….

Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler said Thursday that Harris joined the group in the early 1990s and left in 1995. ……. Carl Raschke, a University of Denver professor and expert on domestic terrorists and cult groups, said Harris was saying on the Internet last summer that the federal government would create a bio-terrorism incident and then blame it on Iraq. Raschke monitors such Internet activity daily. ……

In a 1996 interview on "The Intelligence Report," a shortwave radio program produced by Wolverine Productions, Harris talked at length about how to reconstitute dehydrated anthrax and bubonic plague bacteria and distribute them in major U.S. cities through the exhaust systems of cars and airplanes. ……

According to Neff, Harris described how someone could create a deadly broth from the anthrax culture, put it in a pressurized paint sprayer and then spread the deadly germs from a low-flying airplane -- killing at least 100,000 people and still be undetectable. ......

According to an FBI affidavit made public Thursday regarding the arrests of Harris and Leavitt, the FBI said that last summer Harris described plans for the New York attack. "Harris told a group of plans to place a 'globe' of bubonic plague toxins in a New York subway station, where it would be broken by a passing subway train, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths. Harris stated that the Iraqis would be blamed for that event." ...... “

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/chemhar.htm Interview with Larry Wayne Harris by David E. Kaplan Senior Editor, U.S. News & World Report 9/2/97

“…..USN: So you think we’ll see terrorist use of biochemical agents in the U.S.?

LWH: Heavens yes! It’s already happened. We’ve been experimented on by people in the U.S. for years. The government did it... There are super-rats. About 1989, the government took rats -- 100 from each big city -- and injected them with bubonic plague, to see how well it would start a plague. None of them would last long enough to become infectious. But the plan backfired.

USN: How hard is it to create biological weapons?

LWH: Not hard at all. I recovered anthrax, it took just ten days. I checked the newspapers and found the last outbreak in Ohio, it was in the 1950s. I found where the cows were buried and used a long prod to get a sample... It’s very deadly stuff. A single container of anthrax could cause within 48 hours 100,000 people dead. I also cultured yersinia intercolitica -- it’s like plague. You can do it table top. The only thing you need is a good microscope, an autoclave, an incubator... Let’s whip up some botulism -- that’s simple.

USN: Do you think others are doing similar things?

LWH: Of course they’re going to. That goes without saying... Biologicals are extremely easy and far more deadly than an atomic bomb. And microbiologists are the one group that posssess the largest number of their own personal private labs in their own homes than any other discipline out there.

USN: There’s a lot of material available on the Net on biochemical agents -- formulas, where to order recipe books, and so forth. How do you feel about that?

LWH: You haven’t seen anything yet. Wait ‘till you see what’s getting ready to go on the Net. The people I’m talking to... they’re going to post step-by-step instructions how to obtain anthrax, how to disperse it...

USN: Doesn’t that worry you?

LWH: Not at all. It’s deterence. If you know that everyone in the neighborhood has an atomic bomb, civility returns to the neighborhood very quickly.

USN: So, do you think your associates might use these weapons against the government?

LWH: If they arrest a bunch of our guys, they get a test tube in the mail... How many cities are you willing to lose before you back off? At what point do you say: ‘If these guys want to go off to the Northwest and have five stated declared to be their own free and independent country, let them do it?" ….”

http://salonmagazine.com/news/1998/02/20news.html 2/20/1998 Jeff Stein “…. Larry Wayne Harris, arrested Wednesday in Las Vegas with a car full of suspected biological weapons, told an interviewer recently he'd been experimenting with a half dozen other toxins, including bubonic plague, and had made anthrax from a pit in the woods near Cleveland where previously infected cows had been buried 40 years ago. "You know how long it took me to isolate anthrax from the earth?" Harris said, according to a transcript given to Salon by a U.S. government intelligence agency. "Ten days. It took me 14 days to recover bubonic plague." Asked what else he'd been experimenting with, Harris said, "Brucellosis. Tularemia. Cholera. I mostly work with yersinia (bubonic plague virus). It's easy to isolate from cow droppings."

…….Military and FBI officials are testing the suspected toxin at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. …… Harris was on parole after a 1995 conviction for fraudulently trying to obtain botulism samples from a biotechnology firm in suburban Washington, D.C. He claimed that his actions were designed to warn Americans about the perils of biological warfare materials and how easy it is to obtain them. …….

"I hooked it up to a vacuum pump. I incubated it at 35 degrees overnight," he said, adding that, "you can spread this stuff with a commercial paint sprayer (and) use ... mounts outside older aircraft" to spray it over a city. "Within 48 hours, over 100,000 would be dead. If you have one-tenth of a millionth of a gram, that's enough to kill a person." ………

"My book is strictly about civil defense," he said. "I've talked with the casualty management team at the Pentagon. They tell me that it would take one year to recover from the loss of a million people."


11 posted on 11/17/2003 8:07:29 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: kattracks
Lock 'em up and throw away the key.

Pig-sucking Scum.

12 posted on 11/17/2003 8:10:42 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: Badabing Badaboom; Sabretooth; Southack
Anthrax trivia for you... was there more to the Feb 1998 Las Vegas thing than we were told?

Isn't it odd that Hatfill was targetted for investigation by Rosenberg because he wrote a book on bioterrorism? Well, so did one of these guys. One of the guys sounds an awful lot like the way Hatfill's been described to us.

Plus, ties to Las Vegas where the hijackers also had ties, and even a lab in Frankfurt, Germany, home of one of the al Qaeda cells.

And their case too turned up in a time of increased crisis with Iraq.

13 posted on 11/17/2003 6:05:13 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa; Sabertooth
"One of the men had a typical Taliban beard though both were billed as white redneck supremacists."

The media stereotype of all domestic terrorists is that of the angry, White male. In most cases, nothing could be further from the truth (certainly the Washington, D.C. snipers wouldn't fit that bill).

In particular, the two terrorists to whom you are referring were members of the Aryan Nations. These people all subscrbe to the theory of ZOG. ZOG is the Zionist Occupation Government, i.e. the Jews run America from behind the scenes (gee, where have we heard *that* tripe before). The Aryan Nations is strongly associated with neo-NAZIs. Most Aryan Nations adherents fly the Confederate Battle Flag alongside the NAZI swastika (interesting sidenote: swastika is farsi - "swas" mean good and "tika" meaning luck or cross; farsi is also the language of Persia).

But wait, there's more. To gain favor with Hitler, the nation of Persia changed its name to Aryan (as in, Aryan Nation). In farsi, Aryan is spelled Iran. Hence, this is how the nation of Iran came into being.

Fast forward to today, and you've got Taliban-style bearded adherents of the Aryan Nations running around with anthrax while flying the NAZI battle flag swastika.

Could it get any wierder?!

14 posted on 11/17/2003 7:02:58 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
As weird as the diverse composition Washington DC "save the baathists peace rally" sponsored by Ramsey Clark...

Same crowd.

15 posted on 11/17/2003 8:51:07 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: All
The two men's religions were never mentioned but the one with the Tali-beard was a past member of Aryan Nations and had left it some time before. I wonder if he "got religion" as did John Walker and adopted the beard? It's not the usual sort of short beard that would be seen here in the states but looked more like that bushy longish one Seattle Cell suspect Mike Hawash adapted after he "got religion."

I imagine there are more than a few supremacist types who might be attracted by the al Qaeda version of Islam.

16 posted on 11/17/2003 9:06:31 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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