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To: Chad Fairbanks
I suppose that is one reason I can't understand why some people get so upset over the very idea that there were people in the Americas before us and that we pushed them out. Although undoubtedly a few of them joined our ancestral line as well.

It isn't as if it was something to be ashamed of, it happened a very long time ago and it isn't as if it were unique either. You don't see a lot of Cannanites running around these days.

Are we starting to actually believe that New Age crap?

We were the tough, the brave, the bold and, yes, the very ruthless. I, personally take offense at the idea that my ancestors were fluffy, little de-clawed kittens!

46 posted on 11/17/2003 6:07:51 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I suppose that is one reason I can't understand why some people get so upset over the very idea that there were people in the Americas before us and that we pushed them out.

If there's one old shibboleth that applies to this subject, it's "same as it ever was".

I just can't buy all this pushin' out, subduin' and exterminatin' in the fullness of its application: if the modern history of man is any indication of what transpired pre-historically, it's more likely--to me anyway...applying unscientific chin scratchin' and ruminatin'--that various indiginous populations were absorbed rather than wiped out.

Take, for example, the Kelts, Romans, Saxons, Jutes Angles, Danes and Normans in the Isles. While it is apparent that, generally speaking, the complexion of the inhabitants gets darker the farther west you go, there is probably little in the way of racial purity left after only 2000 years.

Here in the US, particularly in the urban areas, the population of mixed-race people growing exponentially. This after only a couple-hundred years. What about in a thousand, with the increased mobility and all?

Need we mention Iceland?

I suspect that the reason American Indians do not resemble their alleged Asian ancestors is because of racial mixing with Kelt, or whomever else was here before them. A lot of the depictions of Northeast Indians look downright anglo--as opposed to the faces of more western tribes.

My stupid, unlearned surmise...

There's always whacking going on between people, but the females, especially, are not so cavalierly wasted. So, anyway, I also think that, in the main, most of us can claim indiginous status. Mebbe my Irish ancestors came in waves serarated by, like ten-thousand years. I'm the product of at least a dozen or more identifiably different cultural--if not racial--ancestors. Now I'm just American....a totally new sub-species?

50 posted on 11/17/2003 11:25:21 PM PST by dasboot (Celebrate UNITY!)
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